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Old 08-11-2009, 10:17 AM
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Re: Difference between Art and Craft - A Craftsman's Take

venn diagram.(?)
exactly
thanx
i like:

http://www.hawaii.edu/envctr/ecotour...%20diagram.jpg

for the way the colors come together
'course, we could opine about the degrees of eccentricity vs concentricity
and points of overlap ad nauseoum(sp?)
and, in keeping with the fluid notion, morph the edges into irregular unstable amoeba shaped blobs... ...
but
you agree with the basic concept?
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Old 08-11-2009, 10:57 AM
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agree, of course; always leave room for changing ideas and things you haven't even discovered yet. Some folks call this wishy-washy, I call them short-sighted (but not to their face).

I liked this one for the unifying elements.
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Old 08-11-2009, 12:16 PM
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Re: Difference between Art and Craft - A Craftsman's Take

Isn't it bad enough what we do to nature and our planet? Do we have to be proud of doing it with our art?
Can't say I can argue the truth of it but that is how I feel.
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Old 08-11-2009, 01:40 PM
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can't say as i follow what you're talking about buddy, but if it's a rant about how I'm raping your planet, I'm just saying for the record that all my interactions with nature have been respectful and consensual, I even called the next day. So what are we doing to our art???
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Old 08-11-2009, 02:23 PM
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Re: Difference between Art and Craft - A Craftsman's Take

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may art ever enhance craft and craft ever serve art well
may the artist ever improve his craft to better serve his art,
and the craftsman ever strive for truth and beauty in his craft

may i be both
....it could be that somebody have said it better - but for now , this the best I've seen - my hat's off...
...would you mind if I used part of this quote as a signature in this forum?
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Old 08-11-2009, 03:22 PM
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can't say as i follow what you're talking about buddy, but if it's a rant about how I'm raping you're planet, I'm just saying for the record that all my interactions with nature have been respectful and consensual, I even called the next day. So what are we doing to our art???
As you said you can't follow what I'm talking about.
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Old 08-11-2009, 05:50 PM
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Re: Difference between Art and Craft - A Craftsman's Take

nope, what I indicated is that I am not understanding what you wrote, as opposed to saying I can't understand you. Subtle difference. If you choose not to divulge what the conversation was about, I'll understand that it wasn't really a valid point anyway.
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Old 08-11-2009, 10:40 PM
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Ivan you are ever welcome to use images of my art or words

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...nature and our planet...
symbiosis
is poorly understood but amazingly simple
eg:
a blackberry vine/bush offers its tender and tasty fruits(berries) to us with the understanding that we will wander about and shit out the seeds wrapped in our fertilizer and thereby allow it to propagate itself beyond the reach of it's root structure
constant use of toilets is unnatural and denies our responsibility to fulfill our fair part of the bargain
for lack of a better word, "reverence" of all our interactions with nature may open the mind to the concept that we are potentially the greatest benefit to our shared ecosystem ...
I love blackberries
so
should you survive my death
please come at the appropriate season and gorge yourself on blackberries
then
the following day
shit on my grave
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Old 08-12-2009, 09:05 PM
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Perhaps, what I should have posted was:

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...planet ...Do we have to be proud of doing it with our art?
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to whom are you referring?, whose art?

and, grommet
this one?
http://piercework.typepad.com/.a/6a0...ea82e6b970c-pi
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Old 08-12-2009, 09:34 PM
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yes, that one. What can I say, I'm easily amused.
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Old 08-12-2009, 09:50 PM
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What can I say, I'm easily amused.
excellent
kinda makes my day easier
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Old 08-14-2009, 04:08 PM
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Well, needs more clay and definitely some more work. Yes, knowing when its done is going to be tough. But I'm on it...not giving up yet.

One the road til Monday...I'll pick up the pieces then.

ta ta
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Old 08-14-2009, 04:26 PM
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Re: Difference between Art and Craft - A Craftsman's Take

give it a metal body thats ten feet tall.

kinda like Rika pieces.
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Old 08-14-2009, 04:52 PM
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Well, needs more clay and definitely some more work. Yes, knowing when its done is going to be tough. But I'm on it...not giving up yet.

One the road til Monday...I'll pick up the pieces then.

ta ta
I have to give you points for having the guts to do what I'm sure most abstract artists would never do. Let us know when you are done and how the experience affected your ideas about art. (if at all)
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Old 08-14-2009, 05:39 PM
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Re: Difference between Art and Craft - A Craftsman's Take

You know, I like the middle shot a lot. It made me smile when I looked at it. I for one can not see how it would be improved. It has a sense of style, a look, a personality, an aesthetic view, that worked really well for me. Others will undoubtedly have things to change about it--they always have their "opinions". But I say it is DONE. Cast it. Again, I LIKE it.
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Old 08-14-2009, 05:46 PM
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Re: Difference between Art and Craft - A Craftsman's Take

Right Joe,.. What do you suppose the odds are that I take a look just now and the ice cream truck drives by playing old suzanna? Pretty slim I think, but to me it looks like someone is itching for a buck from dad..

That's pretty good for what,... 30 minutes,.. an hour? Knock it out over breakfast?

Can't fool me...
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Old 08-14-2009, 08:45 PM
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Re: Difference between Art and Craft - A Craftsman's Take

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Don't even go there or we'll get in another political debate.
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Old 08-14-2009, 09:04 PM
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she reminds me a bit of Rika's piece.
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Old 08-14-2009, 09:51 PM
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she reminds me a bit of Rika's piece.
how so?
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Old 08-14-2009, 10:02 PM
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that pouty lip, roundy face thing. Like Rika's is Evaldart's piece grown up a bit. with a free-spirit do.
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Old 08-14-2009, 10:13 PM
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Don't even go there or we'll get in another political debate.
It's all over cept the gullags anyway so it don't matta..

Okay, still a ways to go.. I might give it another couple hours or so..
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I always give someone who knows how to wear a hat a second look. Good one.
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Old 08-15-2009, 12:05 PM
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she reminds me a bit of Rika's piece.
i thought the same thing.
it looks happy to me.
might have to use the W word here.
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Old 08-17-2009, 09:08 AM
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what was something I had no time or inclination for became an opportunity for bonding. Started this yesterday. She asked if I could leave it half skull. for the moment...

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Old 08-23-2009, 04:11 PM
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Well, needs more ... But I'm on it...not giving up yet.

One the road til Monday...I'll pick up the pieces then.

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