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Old 07-11-2008, 12:40 PM
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Re: Chasing Beauty

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Beauty seems to be one of those ends that can be used to justify just about any means. A dangerous concept that can be maligned to disastorous results. Some times chasing beauty can be so wrong.
Ironman, did you realize how wrong and dangerous you were when you got up and appreciated the new day with the innocence of a child?
Don't even think about smelling roses!
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Old 07-11-2008, 12:49 PM
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It's best just to smell the roses, not think about it. If you think about it too hard, you've lost already.
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Old 07-11-2008, 12:58 PM
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http://brainethics.wordpress.com/200...bioaesthetics/

The rapidly developing field of Bioaesthetics points to the fact our perception of art as humans is biological i.e. Universal to us. Therefore something you say is beautiful may not be so. The statement "what's beautiful is what I say it is" doesn't cut it anymore anymore.
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Old 07-11-2008, 05:06 PM
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Re: Chasing Beauty

"Bioaesthetics"? Ha, phoneybaloney. Sounds like some lame-assed PHD project. Aesthetics is barely attached to any neurons or subatomicatomic particulates at all - perception and self-awareness are the drivers of it, and it is very important that those two things remain an absolute mystery.
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Old 07-11-2008, 05:58 PM
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Re: Chasing Beauty

quote Giotto<<...what's beautiful is what I say it is" doesn't cut it anymore...>>

Giotto,

The nail in the coffin of the cul de sac that is self-referential work...BRAVO.

Robert etc

ps thanks for the link. I've re-copied it here for those too short-sight to have not seen it the first time:
http://brainethics.wordpress.com/200...bioaesthetics/
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Old 07-11-2008, 06:18 PM
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Re: Chasing Beauty

Beauty, a sirens song that will lead you to certain death. Stuff your ears with cotton lest you end up on the sharp and jagged rocks. Smell the roses indeed.

Beauty in limited doses, every now and then can be a good thing but like any drug can lead to an unfullfilling addiction.

I bait every trap with beauty, works every time.
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Old 07-11-2008, 08:22 PM
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Re: Chasing Beauty

Bioaesthetics
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the attempt to use neuroscience to understand art and aesthetic behavior
The science of art..........(and here, i had thought that an oxymoron)
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quantifying the qualitative

(I read once where some intrepid students did brain scans of a woman in orgasm) seeking the science of orgasm
I knew a mathematician who thought some formulas truly beautiful.

adios to the phrase "there is no accounting for taste"?

whither hence
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:43 PM
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whither hence
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In to the fray good man. There are no bountries with this. You more than most know the history or what you do. Use that.

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Old 07-11-2008, 11:08 PM
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Hi, grommett is correct, "If you think about it too hard, you've lost already."
That and that quote of mine in my first post are the only two things that make sense to me in this thread.
All the rest is gibberish!
Have a great day,
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Old 07-12-2008, 01:18 PM
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"If you think about it too hard, you've lost already."

Do you really think this is true ?

Isn't beauty defined as something pleasing to the senses, and in our case especially visual ?

If this statement is acceptable to you then "chasing beauty" is trying to understand what it is that our senses are responding to. As sculptors we try to understand and learn what works and what doesn't. The experience of knowing when to stop. I suspect most artists we both would consider "great" thought a lot about these things so your saying "don't think about it too much" then you must be relying on intuition ?

A lot have been written on that subject and it's the intuitive response that interests me. The greeks defined it as "Universal" and recent research over the last decade seems to back that up. Intuition regarding beauty is an innate human response.

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Old 07-12-2008, 04:39 PM
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My don't think about it response was in regard to stopping to smell the roses. The task was already defined, with the supposed goal of enjoying the roses. Rather than examine why the roses are beautiful and quantify the breadth and depth of your relaxation and enjoyment and take reference photos and measurements, I suggest you just experience the roses with your senses. You may go through all these gyrations catalogueing the parameters of roseness only to realize later that roses don't really smell that great. Tomato leaves smell much better.

Should you always rely on intuition? I don't think so, at least for me. Some people who are fast can intuition their way through a whole box of crayons and come up with the same end result as the person who thought about it and then chose thier 3 crayons to make their picture.
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Re: Chasing Beauty

when you walk on a beach on a perfect day its beautiful but when you walk on the beach and its 100deg, sweaty with the wind blowing 30mph
its ugly. were did the beauty go?
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Old 07-12-2008, 06:37 PM
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when you walk on a beach on a perfect day its beautiful but when you walk on the beach and its 100deg, sweaty with the wind blowing 30mph
its ugly. were did the beauty go?
I'm still out there enjoying the beauty of it, unless something else is going on like ironman sunbathing in a thong.
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Old 07-12-2008, 06:42 PM
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something else is going on like ironman sunbathing in a thong.
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Old 07-12-2008, 08:08 PM
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if the hot beach still holds beauty then theres beauty in pain or until a thong
on the wrong person walks by.
a bad thong has beauty to someone.
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