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Old 08-31-2007, 11:01 AM
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Lei Yixin and the MLK monument

So --- has anyone found large jpgs of Lei's design on the web ?

From the small shots of the maquette that I've seen, it presents MLK as a hero of the People's republic -- straight out of the Soviet school of monumental sculpture -- so apparently that's just what the jury of selection wants (and they're 80% African American)

In an interesting twist -- the jury didn't go to China to look for a sculptor -- they went to a stone-carving expo in Minnesota -- and that's where they found a sculptor from China.


MLK is as important to contemporary American public sculptors as Lincoln was 100 years ago -- so it's kind of a shame that the most important of such monuments will not be designed by an American.

But we dumped our figurative sculpture tradition in the 1960's -- so basically all we've got now is cartoonists -- some better, some worse.

Lei is an excellent cartoonist - as well as technician -- so if I had been on the jury -- maybe I would have voted for him as well over other competitors.

But I haven't read any mention of a competition -- did they have one ?

Did they really have any other options ? Do any living American sculptors have a record of achievement in monuments cut from granite ? (Laredo Taft has been dead for over 70 years!)
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Old 10-19-2007, 05:00 AM
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Re: Lei Yixin and the MLK monument

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So --- has anyone found large jpgs of Lei's design on the web ?

From the small shots of the maquette that I've seen, it presents MLK as a hero of the People's republic -- straight out of the Soviet school of monumental sculpture -- so apparently that's just what the jury of selection wants (and they're 80% African American)

In an interesting twist -- the jury didn't go to China to look for a sculptor -- they went to a stone-carving expo in Minnesota -- and that's where they found a sculptor from China.


MLK is as important to contemporary American public sculptors as Lincoln was 100 years ago -- so it's kind of a shame that the most important of such monuments will not be designed by an American.

But we dumped our figurative sculpture tradition in the 1960's -- so basically all we've got now is cartoonists -- some better, some worse.

Lei is an excellent cartoonist - as well as technician -- so if I had been on the jury -- maybe I would have voted for him as well over other competitors.

But I haven't read any mention of a competition -- did they have one ?

Did they really have any other options ? Do any living American sculptors have a record of achievement in monuments cut from granite ? (Laredo Taft has been dead for over 70 years!)
I'm not sure about the cartoonist thing, I think there are some very good figurative sculptors out there, and I aspire to be one. But a large segment of the population wants MLK to be portrayed as more than just a man, and I would not ever attempt again to do a portrait of him.

Are there still granite workshops in Barre that can replicate from a model?
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Old 11-27-2007, 10:11 PM
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Delegation in Vermont Protests Outsourcing of MLK Memorial
ACTIVISM (10.07.07)



BARRE — A national monument to Martin Luther King Jr. built in Barre? That’s what would happen if a group of artists and activists — including a Vermont native granite carver — got their way.

Two representatives of the Atlanta-based King Is Ours organization are arriving in Vermont’s Granite Capital this Thursday to present their case at a press conference in front of, fittingly, the Italian stonecutter monument in Dente Park. Later in the day, they’ll attend a reception at the Barre Granite Museum. Their message? That a statue dedicated to America’s greatest civil-rights leader — and bound for the forthcoming MLK Memorial on the National Mall — should not be “Made in China.”

Early this year, a memorial foundation committee granted 53-year-old Changsha sculptor Lei Yixin that commission. As reported in national media, the unceremonious announcement outraged many across the country, who found the choice inexplicable.

Gilbert Young, an African-American artist from Atlanta, was so upset that he launched King Is Ours with his wife. The group aims to raise awareness and, he hopes, “repatriate” the MLK memorial. Its website — www.kingisours.com — includes a petition addressed to National Memorial Project Foundation President Harry Johnson Sr., with a goal of collecting 1 million signatures. As of this Tuesday, only 1277 individuals had signed on to KIO’s impassioned prose.

“The planned monument to our beloved Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. has been awarded to an artist from a country with a reprehensible history of civil rights violations against its people,” the petition begins. It concludes: “We demand the right to interpret and present our own historic proclamation in this first ever national monument to an African American man.”

One of the first to jump on board the repatriation effort was a white man: former Vermonter Clint Button. Now living in Spartanburg, South Carolina, where he runs Carolina Sculpture Studio, the 40-year-old Button was born in Chelsea, and he has had “family cutting in Barre for 116 years,” he says in a phone interview. Once a chef whose professional artistic debut was carving ice, Button is now one of a dozen master granite sculptors in the country.

“No one in the U.S. was even allowed to bid [on the MLK sculpture],” Button laments. “I saw a blurb on it in February, another article in July, and thought, I gotta do something about it.”

Button contacted fellow artist Gilbert Young and got involved with the advocacy group “to bring this back,” he says of the sculpture commission. “This is not a black issue, or an anti-Chinese issue — we object to the process,” he clarifies. “We object to a Chinese artist who can’t imagine what it’s like to be a black man fighting for justice in the U.S. doing it. Four men in D.C. chose China,” Button continues. “We would have the same problem whether it was India, Africa, wherever. This is American history.”

Since last spring, KIO’s grassroots efforts — including a MySpace page — have generated their own share of international publicity, with interviews on CNN and the BBC. Support has come from celebrities such as hip-hop impresario Russell Simmons and Washington politicos. Earlier this month in California, the NAACP issued a resolution denouncing the “outsourcing” of the MLK statue and demanding not only that it be repatriated, but that African-American artists be named the “Artists-of-Record” and American granite be used.

To that last point, the USA Granite Industry, the Barre Granite Association and Vermont’s congressional delegation say a hearty “amen.”

In a letter dated September 26, Sens. Patrick Leahy and Bernie Sanders and Rep. Peter Welch strongly urge Roderick Gillum, chairman of the MLK memorial foundation, to consider Barre granite, which “has been used in some of the most significant monuments and memorials around the country, including the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington,” it states. A copy of the letter, which does not refer to KIO specifically, was provided by Sanders’ office. In what seems like a veiled reference to China’s reputation for less-than-humane working conditions, the letter continues, “Furthermore, Barre manufacturers provide their employees with excellent wages and ensure the highest safety standards at their facilities.”

Native son Clint Button also champions Vermont granite — and suggests that Barre’s stone-arts school would be a great place to create a King sculpture. He further proposes the facility be used to train a new generation of granite carvers (one of the goals of the currently moribund venue). Gilbert Young, he reports, has 30 years’ experience in developing educational arts programs. “There are no black artists in the carving industry,” Button notes. “I’ve got people who are literally chomping at the bit [to learn].”

Regardless of the outcome of KIO’s Vermont visit this week, Button is looking forward to the homecoming, and is hopeful about advancing his own stone-school dream. Having lived in the north and the south, he’s familiar with the stone industry in both places — the other Granite Capital of the World is Elberton, Georgia. Plus, “I understand the racial issue more than most people in Vermont,” he asserts. “God has put me in a unique position.” Button has already used those connections to solicit, and get, support from the Barre Granite Association, which will host the KIO delegation on Thursday.

Meanwhile, the memorial foundation is soldiering on, still some $18 million shy of its $100 million fundraising goal. (The feds contributed just under 10 mil.) The memorial website touts a long list of high-profile celebrities who are helping to “build the dream.” It boasts of the African-American, woman-owned architecture firm that will design and build the memorial. It offers donors a $5 “memorial wrist band.” Not least, there’s a virtual tour of the memorial model. You have to look very hard to find any mention of a Chinese sculptor selected to create the 28-foot-tall, full-length likeness of King. Nonetheless, that decision may be already carved in stone — Chinese pink granite.

Gilbert Young and Clint Button from King Is Ours will be in Barre on Thursday, November 8, for a press conference at 9 a.m. in Dente Park, followed by a tour of key granite industry sites, culminating in a reception from 4-6 p.m. at the Granite Museum. For more info, see www.kingisours.com, or call the Barre Granite Association at 476-4131. For more info on the Martin Luther King Jr. Memorial, visit www.mlkmemorial.org.
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:21 PM
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Re: Lei Yixin and the MLK monument

My problem with Lei Yixin doing the job is not that he's memorialized Mao -- but that he's made MLK look like just another semi-divine communist hero.

I.e. -- there's no vulnerability/humanity there.

How far we have fallen from the Daniel Chester French piece in the Lincoln Memorial !

I think it's going to end up as more of a laughingstock than an eyesore -- a variant on Andy Warhol's giant portraits of Mao.
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Old 01-28-2008, 10:19 PM
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I like the idea of putting his speeches on the side. I like it. I think part of the resistance in the media purely racist.

The mountain is certainly an appropriate symbol to back The Reverend MLK Jr. up.
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it looks interesting and not really that comunist, if you could say it was designed by a western artist the commie thing probably wouldnt be noticed. i have seen many monuments in the west with far more totalitarianistic traits. looking from outside i find the US a bit insular and so am pleased these selectors have chosen an outsider, thats equality no? or is it.... if they had chosen a white sculptor it may not have been a popular move with the african american community, a black artist and it would have been seen as devisive and unfair, so why not avoid the awkward and go neutral -annoy everyone.
interestingly this kind of thing may hint that not much has changed under the surface since the great reverend.
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.... if they had chosen a white sculptor it may not have been a popular move with the african american community, a black artist and it would have been seen as devisive and unfair, so why not avoid the awkward and go neutral -annoy everyone.
interestingly this kind of thing may hint that not much has changed under the surface since the great reverend.
What has changed is that having rid our culture of the blatant racism that once existed, people now need to search hard and be inventive to find evidence to support their need to still feel like victims.
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Glenn, you seem to have forgotten your pants.
Glad to hear that all traces of racism have been eradicated in your part of the world. Things are definitely better, but crap still happens & the reflex to duck takes a long time to go away. You can't discount that. All you can do is take a breath & keep walking with your head up, hopeful.
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I'm afraid one not need look far. Blatant racism still exists in this country. This report speaks of the south, but the Reverend wasn't that impressed with the north either.

This discussion reminded me of student days at the University of Tennessee, Knoxville where I was asked by the Martin Luther King Day Committee Chair and mentor, Fran Ansley, to be a student representative. It came to our attention that a white supremacist group, known as the National Democratic Front, had set up shop in Knoxville. They considered the area “the last bastion of white authority on the Eastern seaboard”. A few of us decided to do some undercover research where we met the charismatic Georgetown lawyer who had decided to dedicate his life to a separatist ideal. I found a rather sad figure that resorted to using his young son to stuff pamphlets into mailboxes while “Daddy” worked his shift as a pizza delivery person. We soon learned of internal conflicts dividing the organization and surmised (and hoped) that groups brought together by hatred often end in the same way. Race hatred remains a problem in the South, as the report below documents.
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"Black Church Burnings: Research Report Hate Groups Hate Crimes in Nine Southern States
By Center for Democratic Renewal, June 1996
The Center for Democratic Renewal recognizes that the increased attack on Southern Black churches is part of a growing national trend of violent intolerance. Southern Black churches, particularly in rural areas, are the heart and soul of the Black community. That they are the target of arsonists across the South is neither random nor accidental. The links between white supremacy and attacks on Black churches have been historically documented and are well known. What has not been so obvious, except to the victims of such attacks, is that the burning of Black churches in the South has never stopped. A particularly virulent resurgence of these hate crimes has emerged over the past six years, increasing in numbers and intensity with each passing month.

In some recent cases, the links between the arsonists and hate groups have been documented. In most cases the perpetrators are unknown. CDR maintains that this link is evident, whether or not a formal association exists. White supremacist ideology is the driving force behind hate rhetoric and the use of violence to threaten and intimidate. The attacks on Black churches are acts of domestic terrorism and must be placed within the context of white supremacy.

The purpose of this briefing paper is to provide a glimpse into the world of hatred that exists in the states most affected by Black church burnings and bombings. This paper does not attempt to report a comprehensive list of hate groups and racially motivated incidents of violence, but instead illustrates the flavor of organized hatred in the South. This short report shows that the Klan is not dead, but is thriving. The old Klan-type of organized racism is augmented by groups with different names but motivated by the same hatred, and spewing the same intolerant rhetoric that is easily transformed, by some, into violence. The following is a partial listing of examples of hate crimes that took place in the 1990s and of organizations that existed during the same time in the nine Southern states where attacks on Black churches have taken place:

Alabama
Wedowee became the focus of national attention in 1994 when the high school principal, Hulond Humphries, threatened to cancel the prom if inter-racial couples planned to attend. He announced to the school that a young woman of mixed race had been a "mistake." The final result of racial tensions provoked by the divided community was a school that was burned to the ground. Following close behind the racial incidents were appearances by Nathan Thomaston and his Klan from Heard County, Georgia, and Richard Barrett's Nationalist Movement.

Two juveniles and one adult were arrested in April 1994 for crossburnings at a mostly white mobile home park in Florence. Police said there were no links between the crossburnings and a fire that gutted the trailer of a black family that lived there.

In February 1993, A warning card from the Knights of the KKK was left on the door of a Five Points church whose membership includes blacks. In Prattville in February 1992, racial slurs, swastikas, and satanic symbols were burned into the walls and pews of a black church.

After a series of violent attacks on homeless African American men, in April 1992, a black homeless man was murdered while sleeping in Birmingham by four skinhead members of the Aryan National Front and Confederate Hammerskins.

In July 1991, the Chambers County Courthouse ended the 159-year-old practice of recording marriages in books marked white and colored. This happened one day after an Associated Press article was published about it.

On March 31, 1990, Darren Jessie, a young black man who was dating a white woman, was shot to death while sitting in his car outside a grocery store in Mobile. A second victim was paralyzed. A white man was convicted and sentenced to life without parole.

White Supremacists in Alabama
KKK, Confederate Knights of Alabama; Mobile
KKK, Federation of Klans Knights of the KKK; Hartselle
KKK, Knights of the KKK; Semmes, Tuscumbia
KKK, Knights of KKK Christian Patriots; Clanton
National Association for the Advancement of White People; Garden City
Prisoners Support Committee; Northport
Dixie Odinist Kindred; Calera, Trussville
Aryan Prisoners of War Family; Fultondale
Emergency Committee; Hartselle
Seig Heil; Huntsville
Aryan Defense League; Montgomery
KKK, Alabama Knights; Hartselle, Montrose, Somerville
Skinheads, Confederate Hammerskins; Birmingham
Skinheads, Aryan National Front; Birmingham
White Liberation Message Line; Mobile
American Nationalist Publications; Eclectic
We the People; Huntsville
Aryan Nations; Mobile
KKK, United Klans of America; Tuscaloosa

Arkansas
In March, 1993, a black woman in Little Rock was raped by two white men who claimed they liked to kill black people.

Harrison is the homebase of Thom Robb of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, which, since the demise of the Invisible Empire, is the largest Klan faction in the US. Robb's KKK compound in Zinc is the site of an annual meeting of Christian Identity believers, a National Klan congress, and a so-called non-Klan related gathering. Robb's guests include skinheads, neo-Nazis, and members of Aryan Nations, as well as Klansmen.

In 1993, the Knights started a Klan Kid Korp to "help steer children in the right direction." This group is for ages from birth to 12 years.

In November, 1992, Ralph Forbes, a member of the American Nazi Party, received over 6,000 votes in his run for state Congress.

White Supremacists in Arkansas
AKIA (Inter-Klan publication); Camden
KKK, Knights of the Ku Klux Klan; Harrison, Gravette
Kingdom Identity Ministries; Harrison
KKK, Knights in the Ozarks; Bentonville
Aryan Nations; Camden
National Association for the Advancement of White People; Harrison, Mabelvale
Skinheads (name unknown); Pulaski County

Georgia
A Chatham County teen, the son of a Ku Klux Klan leader, was indicted in 1993 for spraypainting "KKK" and "move or else" on the pickup truck of a black family living in an all-white neighborhood. A picture of the Georgia flag was painted on the truck window.

A black couple seeking to buy a house in Austell, a suburb of Atlanta, were dissuaded when the house was vandalized with red "KKK" symbols and "niger go home."

On July 18, 1993, four men dressed in white sheets doused a cross in front of the home of a white woman who lived with a black man.

White Supremacists in Georgia
KKK, Confederate Forces Knights of the KKK; Conyers
KKK, Fraternal White Knights; Cartersville
KKK, Cavalier Knights; Oakwood
KKK, Friendly Knights; Franklin
Nathan Bedford Forrest Society; Savannah
KKK, Rebel Knights; Dawsonville
KKK, Royal Confederate Knights; Rome
KKK, Southern Confederate Knights; Rome
Southern National Party, Austell
KKK, Southern White Knights; Redan
KKK, US Klans Knights; Stockbridge
KKK, New Order Knights; Augusta
KKK, North Georgia Knights; Rossville
KKK, Winder Knights; Winder
National Alliance; Stone Mountain
SS Action Group; Covington
SS of America; Marietta
True Knights, Aryan Nation; Experiment
Church of the Avenger; Cordele
Church of the Creator; Kennesaw
Crusade Against Corruption; Marietta
Confederate Hammerskins; Marietta
Aryan Freedom Fighters; Chatsworth
Aryan National Front; Marietta
Aryan Resistance League; Conyers
Aryan Sisters League; Smyrna
Fyrdung; Roswell
White Women's Association; Smyrna
Atlanta Committee for Historical Review; Atlanta

Louisiana
Five Ku Klux Klan members were indicted in 1991 for burning nine crosses in the Shreveport area to intimidate blacks. Crosses were burned in front of the NAACP offices, two public schools, the home of a black family, the federal courthouse, a church, an apartment complex, and along two roadways.

In July, 1991, in St. John the Baptist Parish, a black youth was murdered by a teenager who wanted the thrill of killing a black person.

Louisiana gained national attention through its native-son, David Duke, the presidential candidate who made racism respectable. In his races for various offices, Duke denied that he was a racist, even though his Klan activity and his founding of the National Association for the Advancement of White People is well documented. His racist rhetoric prompted thousands to vote for him and financially support his campaign.

Two glass bottles of gasoline were thrown through a window of a black family's home in Raceland. A young white man was charged with aggravated arson in February 1993.

In April 1993, the only person of color in a group of youths in New Orleans was struck and dragged by a car occupied by white men who yelled racial slurs at the black college student.

A crossburning took place outside a black student's dormitory at LSU in January 1992, and in February, a cross was burned at a black family's home in Frisco.

Five crosses were burned within an hour in predominately black neighborhoods in Shreveport in May 1991. Nine Louisiana Klansmen pleaded guilty to burning the crosses.

In August 1990, a cross was burned on the front lawn of a black couple in Bastrop. Vandals broke a window in the home, and wrote on a towel the message, "We are the KKK of Mississippi. We are about 8,000 strong. You can't stay in a white neighborhood in the south you will die. You stay you die."

Chad Sullivan, 16, was accused of shooting a 59-year-old black woman in New Orleans on September 14. Sullivan had white supremacist and satanic slogans tattooed on his body and on the walls of his apartment.

White Supremacists in Louisiana
KKK, Bayou Patriots Knights; Choudrant
KKK, Invisible Knights of the White Kamillia; Lafayette
Aryan Nations; Minden
National Association for the Advancement of White People; New Orleans
Skinheads, Hail Victory; Mesquite
Sons of Liberty; Metairie
Christian Defense League; Arabi, Baton Rouge
New Christian Crusade Church; Metairie
KKK, Knights of the KKK; Denham Springs
Sons of Liberty Books; Metairie
National White Resistance; Metairie
Krowbar Records; Baton Rouge

Mississippi
The Mississippi Senate voted in February 1995 to abolish slavery -- 130 years after the rest of the country. Mississippi is the only state that never ratified the 13th Amendment to the Constitution in 1865, holding out because slaveowners were not compensated for freed slaves.

The Mississippi Knights of the Ku Klux Klan planned a rally March in Greenwood to display its support for current legislative proposals to end affirmative action. The Klan also supports the idea of quarantining all people infected with HIV to "safeguard America's health."

In Puckett in August 1993, a man wearing a white hood warned a white woman to quit letting black children swim in her pool.

Approximately 250 marchers turned out in Meridian and Philadelphia on April 27, 1991, for a march sponsored by the Confederate Knights of America. About 30 skinheads acted as security for the march, and later that evening, a triple crossburning was held near Decatur.

Fliers praising blacks for killing each other were distributed in Jackson in November 1991.

The Nationalist movement, based in Learned, expanded its "Warrior Training Range" to include Skinhead indoctrination and weapons training.

On May 1, 1990, the father of the Confederate Knights chaplain fired shots into a car occupied by five black men in Forest. About 60 Klansmen attended a rally on the chaplain's property on May 19.

Three inmates of the Picayune jail were visited in July 1990 by men wearing Klan masks. The men placed a knife to the throat of one inmate and threatened to kill him. A police officer and jailer were implicated by an FBI investigation.

White Supremacists in Mississippi
Christian Patriots Defense League; Rome
National Alliance; Jackson
Nationalist Movement; Learned
League of Pace Amendment Advocates; Hattiesburg
Church of the Creator; Jackson
White Viking Revolution; Oak Grove
KKK, Mississippi Knights; Harperville
Citizens Councils of America; Jackson
Christian Patriots Crusade; Bay St. Louis
White Sons of the Confederacy; Poplarville
KKK, Knights of the Flaming Sword; Poplarville
KKK, US Klans; Philadelphia
KKK, Knights

North Carolina
On April 1, 1993, in Jacksonville, three firebombs were thrown at a gay bar.

In July 1992, a black man was attacked in Asheville by a self- proclaimed skinhead.

Several downtown shopping areas and parking lots were victim to the distribution of Klan literature in March 1992.

Copies of the neo-Nazi newspaper Racial Loyalty were distributed at the Janesville Mall in January 1993.

In August 1992, a note with a swastika and neo-Nazi literature were taped to a black-owned business.

Skinhead soldiers from Ft. Bragg killed a Black couple, execution style, who were walking down the street in Fayetteville, after determining they would go "hunt" some blacks.

White Supremacists in North Carolina
KKK, Confederate Knights of America; Huntersville, Concord
National Socialist White People's Party; Raleigh
Aryan Youth Movement; Angier
KKK, Aryan Christian Knights; Brown Summit
Skinheads, Old Glory; Charlotte, Huntersville
Skinheads, SS of America; Charlotte
National Association for the Advancement of White People; Clemmons
White Patriot Party; Dallas
KKK, Battle Flag Knights; Huntersville
KKK, Christian Knights; Mount Holly, Ellenboro, Charlotte
Church of the Creator; Otto
Truth At Last; Rockymount
White Patriot Party; Shelby
Skinheads, Skinhead Power; Waxhaw
KKK, Whiteville Knights; Whiteville
KKK, White Knights of Liberty; Winston Salem
KKK, Confederate Knights; Hillsborough, Huntersville
KKK, North Carolina Knights; Reidsville
Nationalist Movement; Blackwood
Skinheads, Confederate Hammerskins; Huntersville
Skinheads, Hammerskins; Charlotte
National Socialist Party Of NC; Raleigh, Penland
SS of America; Huntersville
The Klansman; Gulf
Racial Loyalty; Otto
Skinheads; Gastonia, Winston Salem
KKK, Knights; Onslow County
KKK, Independent Knights; Concord
Aryan Nations; Lexington

South Carolina
A black Fort Jackson soldier was taunted by dozens of race fans using racial slurs during an auto race in Columbia in March 1994.

In Apri 1994, a KKK calling card was left in the mail box of a black woman who had just moved into a new neighborhood in Easley.

Melissa Watson Harvey, 21, of Blacksburg, was sentenced to public service and one year probation after pleading guilty to trying to hire a KKK member to kill her cousin's black boyfriend in September 1992.

A cross was burned in the yard of an African American family on February 14, 1993 and a racial slur was painted on another black family's driveway following Ku Klux Klan marches on Saturday in Summerville and Moncks Corner. A white male, Bailey Sanders, was arrested and charged in the crossburning.

Carl M. Wildes, 42, was arrested and indicted for a crossburning at the home of a black neighbor August 21, in Georgetown. The indictment alleges that Wildes and accomplice Harry Cameron, sought to scare the family from the predomately white community. Wildes resigned as president of majority-black Local 565 of the United Paper Workers International headquartered in Nashville.

In June 1990, a cross was burned at a trailer park in North Charleston. A cross was also burned in front of an apartment building in Rock Hill in August, and in the yard of a black man in Columbia in October.

A grocery store and black owned automobile were arsoned in two separate incidents in York on July 11, 1990.

Skinheads harassed and threatened black residents in two Spartanburg neighborhoods in August 1990.

White Supremacists in South Carolina
KKK, Disciples of the KKK; Ware Shoals
KKK, International Knights; Enoree
KKK, US Klans; Liberty
Aryan Nationalist Church; Pickens
Christ's Covenant Church; Sharon
Church of the Creator; Pickens
KKK, Confederate Knights of the KKK; Newberry, Greenville, West Columbia, Inman
White Civil Rights Club; Cades
KKK, Confederate White Knights of the KKK; Newberry Conservative Citizens Council, SC
KKK, Keystone Knights; SC

Tennessee
The babysitter of a white woman with a biracial child in Tracy City had a cross burned in her yard in March, 1994.

Pulaski, Tennessee is the "home" of the Ku Klux Klan--where the Klan was founded in the post-Civil War era. It remains the site of annual Klan "homecoming" rallies, generally just in time to protest the Martin Luther King holiday.

In 1990, Knoxville was the city chosen by neo-Nazi Gary Gallo to open a National Democratic Front office and bookstore. Gallo was quoted as saying "I am a white nationalist. I love my own kind. . . And I hate, I hate those who would destroy my race for their own nefarious purposes. I hate the capitalists, Communists and Jews, for they are out to destroy my people. It is us or them." The National Democratic Front calls for a division of United States land according to race, with some land allotted to "multiracialists," those who wish to live with other races.

In October, 1994, a tenant renting an apartment from Thelma de la Beckwith, wife of the man convicted of killing civil rights activist Medgar Evers, held off police officers for eight hours as he fired random shots and shouted about Adolf Hitler. After he was subdued and captured, police found Lee Smith's apartment decorated with Nazi paraphernalia.

White Supremacists in Tennessee
KKK, Guardians of American Liberty; Mosheim
KKK, Knights; Nashville, Memphis
KKK, US Klans Knights; Big Sandy
Aryan Nations; Murfreesboro
Iron Fist; Chattanooga
KKK, Christian Guard; Eastridge
Ultimatum (Skinhead and KKK magazine); Ardmore
Skinheads, Confederate Hammerskins; Memphis
Skinheads, Women for Aryan Unity; Memphis
Nathan Bedford Club; Kingsport
KKK, Tennessee White Knights; Philadelphia
True Israel Identity; Knoxville
League of Pace Amendment Advocates; Hermitage
National Democratic Front; Knoxville
Southern National Party; Memphis
KKK, Tennessee Knights; London
Tennessee White Unity Coalition; Knoxville
Aryan Women's League; Morristown
National White Rights Association; Memphis
Tennessee White Alliance; Smyrna

Virginia
In August 1991, a home that was under contract to be sold to a black couple was arsoned by a white man who didn't feel black people should move into his neighborhood.

On January 19, 1992, in Fredericksburg, a cross was burned at a school during a program honoring Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

On March 3, 1992, in Winchester, racist slogans were painted on two downtown businesses.

On May 1, 1992, in Motley, a cross was burned at a black family's home.

On May 10, 1992, in Roanoke, a cross was burned at the home of a white woman and a biracial child.

In August 1993, a black couple's car was destroyed by fire and they were sent a death threat by a white supremacist group who identified themselves a the VA Aryan Chapter III. The racist group claimed responsibility for the arson.

White Supremacists in Virginia
Skinheads, Third Way of America; Arlington
National Alliance; Arlington
KKK, Christian Knights; Chatham, Woolwine
Church of the Creator; Fairfax Station
KKK, Confederate White Knights; Falls Mills
Skinheads, Confederate WAR; Glen Allen
Skinheads, Virginia Skins; Mclean
KKK, Knights; West Springfield, Manassas
National White People's Socialist Party; Arlington
World Union of National Socialists; Arlington
Revelaton Books; Staunton
KKK, Associated; Stephens City
KKK, Imperial; Manassas
National Socialist Front; Vienna

The Center for Democratic Renewal (CDR) is a national non-profit clearinghouse for information on white supremacist groups throughout the world. Founded in 1979 as the National Anti-Klan Network, CDR monitors, analyzes and organizes against hate groups and hate group activity.

BLACK CHURCH BURNINGS IN THE SOUTH STATISTICAL DATA
Prepared by: Center for Democratic Renewal
Note: The Center for Democratic Renewal maintains an up-to-date listing on Black Church burnings in the south. General data sources include information from federal and local agencies, press clippings and victim reports. The numbers are subject to change on a daily basis.

BLACK CHURCH BURNINGS, FIREBOMBINGS, VANDALISMS JANUARY 1990 - APRIL 1996

1. January 5, 1990--Apostolic Faith Assembly Church, Louisville, KY.
2. January 6, 1990--Asbury Chapel AME Church, Louisville, KY.
3. August 11, 1991-- Thornwell Orphanage, Clinton, SC.
4. October 8, 1991-- Sandhill s Freewill Baptist Church, Hemingway, SC.
5. December, 1991--Barren River Baptist Church, Bowling Green, KY.
6. February, 1992--Rock Springs Baptist Church, McDonough, GA.
7. October 21, 1992-- Tucker Baptist Church, Union, SC.
8. April 4, 1993--Springhill Freewill Baptist Church, McComb, MS.
9. April 4, 1993--Rocky Point Missionary Baptist, McComb, MS.
10. April 19, 1993-- Camp Welfare Baptist Church, Fairfield, SC.
11. May 19, 1993-- St. Stephens Baptist Church, St. Stephen, SC.
12. January 17, 1994--Ft. Lauderdale, FL.
13. February, 1994--Bucks Chapel Church, Sumter County, AL.
14. February, 1994--Pine Top Baptist, Sumter County, AL.
15. February, 1994--Oak Grove Missionary Church, Sumter County, AL.
16. February 19, 1994--Rock Hill Baptist Church, Aiken County, SC.
17. February 25, 1994--Old Rosemary Baptist Church, Aiken County, SC.
18. June 6, 1994--Jerusalem Baptist Church, Aiken, S.C.
19. July 21, 1994--Springfield Baptist Church, Madison, GA.
20. July 21, 1994--Elam Baptist Church, Jones County, GA.
21. August 5, 1994--Greater Missionary Baptist Church, Clarkesville, TN.
22. August, 1994--Benevolent Lodge #210, Clarkesville, TN.
23. September 8, 1994--Rice s Chapel, Buffalo, SC.
24. September 8, 1994--New Wright's Chapel, Shelby County, TN.
25. September 8, 1994-Dec. 31, 1995--Five(5) churches, Memphis, TN.
26. October 8, 1994-- Shrub Branch Baptist Church, Blackville, SC.
27. October 23, 1994-- St. Paul A.M.E. Church, Cades, SC.
28. December 30, 1994--Salem Missionary Baptist Church, Fruitland, TN.
29. January 1, 1995--Bluff Road U.M.C., Columbia, S.C..
30. January 13, 1995--Macedonia Missionary Baptist Church, Crockett County, TN.
31. January 29, 1995--Friendship Missionary Baptist Church, Columbia, TN.
32. January 29, 1995--Canaan AME, Mt. Pleasant, TN.
32. January 31, 1995--Mt. Calvary Baptist Church, Bolivar, TN.
33. March 9, 1995--Hammond Grove Baptist Church, N. Augusta, S.C.
34. March 24, 1995-- Sike Savannah Methodist Church, Ruffin, SC.
35. May 4, 1995-- La Luz Del Mundo, Wahalla, SC.
36. May 21, 1995--Summer Grove Baptist Church, Aiken, SC.
37. June 20, 1995--Mt. Zion AME Church, Greeleyville, S.C.
38. June 22, 1995--Macedonia Baptist Church, Manning, S.C.
39. August 15, 1995--St. John's Baptist Church, Dixiana, S.C.
40. October 14, 1995--Zion Chapel AME, Sun, LA.
41. October 20, 1995-- Sandy Grove, Bennettsville, SC.
42. October 1, 1995--Islamic Mosque, Greenville, SC
43. December 1, 1995--Mount Hill Missionary Baptist Church, Aiken County, SC.
44. December 11, 1995--Jerusalem Baptist Church, Boligee, AL.
45. December 13, 1995-- Jesus Christ Holy Gospel, Laurens, SC.
46. December 22, 1995--Mt. Zion Baptist Church, Boligee, AL.
47. December 25, 1995--Mount Moriah Baptist Church, Hillsborough, NC.
48. January 8, 1996--Inner City Church, Knoxville, TN.
49. January 11, 1996--Little Zion Baptist Church, Boligee, AL..
50. January 11, 1996--Mt. Zoar Baptist Church, Boligee, AL..
51. January 22, 1996--New Hope Missionary Baptist Church, Lee County, Ark.
52. February 1, 1996--Cypress Grove Baptist Church, Zachary, LA.
53. February 1, 1996--St. Paul Baptist Church, Baker, LA.
54. February 1, 1996--Sweet Home Baptist Church, Baker, LA.
55. February 1, 1996--Thomas Benevolent Society, Baker, LA.
56. February 21, 1996--Glorious Church of God and Christ, Richmond, VA.
57. February 28, 1996--New Liberty Baptist Church, Tyler, AL.
58. March 1996--Gays Hill Baptist Church, Millen, GA.
59. March 1996--Butler Chapel A.M.E., Orangeburg, SC.
60. March 5, 1996--St. Paul A.M.E. Church, Hatley, MS.
61. March 10, 1996--Falling Meadows Baptist Church, West Point, MS.
62. March 25, 1996 --Central Baptist Church, Dallas County, AL.
63. March 30, 1996--El Bethel Church, Yazoo County MS.
64. April 7, 1996--St. Paul s Primitive Baptist Church, Lauderdale, MS.
65. April 11, 1996--St. Charles Church, Raincourtville, LA.
66. April 13, 1996-- Rosemary Baptist Church, Barnwell, S.C.
67. April 26, 1996--Effingham Baptist Church, Florence County, S.C.
68. May 14, 1996--Mt. Pleasant Baptist Church, Tigrett, TN.
69. May 17, 1996--Three (3) African American Churches, Desha County, Ark.
70. May 23, 1996--Mount Tabor Baptist Church, Cerro Gordo, NC.
71. May 24, 1996-- Pleasant Hill Baptist Church, Lumberton, NC.
72. June 2, 1996--Rising Star Baptist Church, Greensboro, AL.
73. June 7, 1996-- Matthews-Murkland Presbyterian Church, Charlotte, NC.

Statistics:
>From January 1990 - December 1994 there were 33 incidents of church arsons.
>From January 1995 - December 1995 there were 18 incidents of church arsons.
>From January 1996 - May 1996 there have been 29 incidents of church arsons.

Note: Out of the 80 cases listed above 5 were vandalisms:

Bucks Chapel Church- Sumter County, Alabama
Pine Top Baptist Church- Sumter County, Alabama
Oak Grove Missionary Church - Sumter County, Alabama
Hammond Grove Baptist Church- N. Augusta, South Carolina
Rock Spings Baptist Church, McDonough, Georgia

Note: Out of the 80 cases above 6 were determined to be causes other than arson.

These Church fires remain on the list as notes of possible suspect findings:

Bluff Road U.M.C., Columbia, South Carolina - Electrical
Jerusalem Baptist Church, Boligee,Alabama - Electrical
Central Baptist Church, Dallas County, Alabama - Lightning
Falling Meadows Baptist Church, West Point, Mississippi - Ceiling Furnace
Primitive Baptist Church, Lauderdale, Mississippi - Discarded Cigarette
Jerusalem Baptist Church, Aiken, South Carolina - Electrical

Fires since 1990 that have occured around Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Holiday:

January 1990 - 2
January 1994 - 1
January 1995 - 5
January 1996 - 5

Total church fires occurring around King Holiday since 1990 - 13"
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Well, I'm glad that ALL of those incidents are at least 11 and more often 15 years old. Although it is sad to say the least that there are any such reports, even that recent. The deep south is one area of the US where I have not been, along with Alaska, Hawaii, Oregon, and Washington State.

Southern hospitality is a famous phrase. How unworthy of the name if it is as bad as those reports make it out to be. However, it is also a long list as a list presented here, but as a number of incidents in a large geographical area composed of many states over a period of a decade, it is much smaller than the number of general incidents Anoka county filed in just one month. My county feels rather safe as I go about my life, so let us not draw too broad of a conclusion from the way a group of incidents is presented.

I've mentioned before my soccer team is composed of quite a religious diversity, but I should also mention that out of 11 people, ethnically two members are African American (and I mean actually born in Africa), one is Egyptian, one is Hispanic ( Peru ), one is Chinese, and the rest are various versions of white. None of us are givers or receivers of rascist vibes. We are givers of great team effort and receivers of 1st place every summer except once in the last 10 years we took second.
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[quote=grommet;52261] crap still happens & the reflex to duck takes a long time to go away. QUOTE]



here’s another duck reflex for ya……BlackGenocide.org

--Since 1973, more than twice as many blacks have died from abortion than from heart disease, cancer, accidents, violent crimes and AIDS combined;
-- About 1,450 black infants are aborted every day in this country.

…… 3 out of 5 pregnant African-American women will abort their child…..

….1,450 every day….


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As a piece of "commercial" art it's just fine. As a true work of art i.e. like Rodin's Balzac, it's a joke.

Where is MLK's African-ness, his spirituality, his courage..the philosopher even his love for life and sexuality (if you know anything about him)

This work presents a certain Oriental cast to the features ....hard for artists trained in asian countries to rid themselves of.

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Unless you have facts about condom use and rape as well, I don't see anything useful about your post. What's your point?

Also hard for anyone to rid their work of the face they see most in the mirror.
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Unless you have facts about condom use and rape as well, I don't see anything useful about your post. What's your point?
It seems to me that Duck successfully contradicts Glenn's wishful thinking :
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having rid our culture of the blatant racism that once existed, people now need to search hard and be inventive to find evidence to support their need to still feel like victims.
Yes, all races share drinking fountains and bus seats...but thats just superficial stuff. Glenn has traveled a bit--but not one step as a black man. And talk about the need to feel like a victim(white, male, Christian), look at Glenn's 12/18/07 post relating to art school education:
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...but idea that tolerence is what politically correctness is about...well, that is a great example of the Orwellian doublespeak typical of the current thinking among many college professors.

Politcally correct thought is what it implies: a standard of what is "correct", and that is tolerated. Any opposing views are not tolerated, such as things related to "white", Christian", and "male"
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It seems to me that Duck successfully contradicts Glenn's wishful thinking : Yes, all races share drinking fountains and bus seats...but thats just superficial stuff. Glenn has traveled a bit--but not one step as a black man. And talk about the need to feel like a victim(white, male, Christian), look at Glenn's 12/18/07 post relating to art school education: or 12/19/07
I don't want this thread to be about me, but I do need to respond to the implications here. For one thing, you have quoted me describing the liberal bias in the educational system. That exists. I have not claimed victimhood as a result. In fact, when I was in college, I challenged the worst of it in classes and got fiesty with some professors. In all fairness, I got A's in those classes. I did my homework and was well prepared to make my case, and the professors were honest enough to appreciate someone who disagreed but at least showed an interest in the material. I don't know if they are still as open minded today.

As for not taking a step as a black man, there was a period in my life in Chicago where about 90% of my friends were black, and I went through enough experiences to know what I'm talking about. At that same period, I walked totally alone through all of the worst housing projects in Chicago and blended in without negative incident. Being the only white person in sight did not make me stand out, because my consciousness was not glaringly distinct. I also taught some classes at Operation PUSH, which was Jesse Jackson's headquarters. I got a standing O when I was telling the Highschool kids there about claiming their true identity and not falling for the negative images hyped by the media and popular culture.

There is a saying about not criticizing a man if you have not walked a mile in their moccasins. While I did not go so far as to change my skin color, I have walked many miles in my black brother's moccasins.
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there was a period in my life in Chicago where about 90% of my friends were black, and I went through enough experiences to know what I'm talking about.
Yet you make the following statement:
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What has changed is that having rid our culture of the blatant racism that once existed, people now need to search hard and be inventive to find evidence to support their need to still feel like victims.
The bold part of the statement is what I objected to. That sounded very insensitive.
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It would be great if a sculpture forum mainly was about sculpture, but most of us see the need for extracurricular subjects to come in every so often. For one, I applaud GlennT for his straight talk and for what I consider a good contemporary approach to the American color issues.

On a slightly different note, I much appreciate the generally good approach to race that has flowed from Obama Barack's participation in this year's Presidential contests. [I realize I may be exacerbating the discussion to a point, but I think he is helping the population as a whole get rid of this multi-century old problem.]
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Okay Glenn, here's the question. When you're with your black friends back then, chances are they told a few jokes. Did you laugh at their jokes about themselves?
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Okay Glenn, here's the question. When you're with your black friends back then, chances are they told a few jokes. Did you laugh at their jokes about themselves?
Only at the funny ones.
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and how did they respond to your laughter?
Also, are you still friends?

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I also taught some classes at Operation PUSH, which was Jesse Jackson's headquarters.
You have to admit the side view looks a lot like Jesse Jackson.

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.Well Fritchie, I do think we are on topic. Art should stimulate ideas, conversation if its any good. Talk about race is entirely appropriate when a sculpture honoring MLK started it. There is nothing "extracurricular" here. If you think we should only discuss aesthetics or technique, that is , craft, and not meaning please say so. I doubt that MLK gave a hoot about craft.
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it’s not about condoms or the “crap” that still continues grommet, but civil rights, rights that are violated over 1450 times every day… the right to live. What kind of expression do you think the late Reverend Martin L. King would have on his face if alive today?

Good luck Lei Yixin
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Re jOe~, post 22. I'm simply calling for more civil discussion, not saying it should stop. As I said, I think Barack Obama is setting an example for the whole country on this issue.
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it’s not about condoms or the “crap” that still continues grommet, but civil rights, rights that are violated over 1450 times every day… the right to live. What kind of expression do you think the late Reverend Martin L. King would have on his face if alive today?
Did MLK have an opinion on women's rights? I'm inquiring...

I see of Coretta Scott King....."She spoke out 'on behalf of racial and economic justice, women's and children's rights, gay and lesbian dignity, religious freedom, the needs of the poor and homeless, full employment, health care, educational opportunities, nuclear disarmament and ecological sanity,' according to her biography."

do you have more info that suggests a different attitude for him? I'm curious now... it seems more that you're inflicting your views ...
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