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Old 06-16-2009, 01:22 PM
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Cool, so you mean it's a conversation starter?
Sure and the conversation will probably go something like this....

"Yes you see the pole is his lance and the billowing sheet is his drape...no we left out St. george and the dragon because it's an abstract...get it ? OK so the depictions of St George didn't have billowing drape but you can't deny that's his lance...the flashlight was my idea"

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Old 06-16-2009, 02:00 PM
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yer so clever.
for a lot who extoll the virtues of a spiritual existence, you have little grasp of intangibles. maybe they'll throw in some dragon scales or something.
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Old 06-16-2009, 02:39 PM
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Cool, so you mean it's a conversation starter?
So is a tadpole on a tangerine, but does that make it relevant and vital art?
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Old 06-16-2009, 03:26 PM
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could be, interesting visual. keep working on it.
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Old 06-16-2009, 11:51 PM
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Re: Artists expose their submissions to public scrutiny

i dont recall seeing an australian aboriginal proposal.... there are parrallel myths, what a coup that could have been.

americans seem to wave flags at the drop of a hat but in europe we have some sensitivity derived from social memory here..
the st georges flag is a british empire nationalist symbol, post war this king and country thing dissipated. previously used on churches only on st georges day which was an un sung national day and on low brow sporting events. but lately increasingly used as intolerance spreads. revivalists now wish st georges day celebrations... and the british nationalist party starts to get seats at european parliament. if they one day get all the seats we are out of a job,[ unless we like wagener].
however im sure the great church will lead us on the right path.......onward christian soldiers....
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Old 06-17-2009, 09:30 AM
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americans seem to wave flags at the drop of a hat but in europe we...[ blah, blah]
thanks for the generalization. In my experience, generalization can happen anywhere, generally speaking.
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Old 06-17-2009, 10:18 AM
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Racine, you're on a roll. What's next? All Chinese look alike?
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Old 06-17-2009, 01:42 PM
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Re: Artists expose their submissions to public scrutiny

Racine
Brilliant suggestion using a native theme for St. George. You exemplify the unique position artists have to hold mirrors for us.

Grommet
Continuing the "conversation " with the Dean

"OK so I see the winning work has no St. George, no horse and no Dragon....fine can you tell me who sculpted it. ?"

"Ahem well technically it wasn't sculpted but rather drawn on a computer and the fabricated."

" Oh I see you had a sculpture contest to sculpt St. George and the winner didn't include him and didn't sculpt it ...is that right ?"

"well no there was Larry the sheet metal guy... he sculpted it..he's an artist you know"

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Old 06-17-2009, 02:04 PM
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To readers, despite numerous attempts, his cleverness remained elusive. Unphased, he chortled to himself and returned alone to his clay.

Let me know when you're done.
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Old 06-17-2009, 02:15 PM
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Yes Dear Grommet...I tease you..why ? it's the fire burning within me...I won't be done until you give me a kiss

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Old 06-17-2009, 02:22 PM
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i see, so it's a 'never' kind of thing.
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Old 06-17-2009, 02:28 PM
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Kissing is good for you Grommet..you should try it...
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Old 06-17-2009, 04:18 PM
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I was chortling right along with Giotto. Wouldn't try the kiss though without some radiation protection.
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Old 06-17-2009, 05:25 PM
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why do i feel like the wolves are circling? Back off vermin!
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Old 06-17-2009, 05:58 PM
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I'm sorry Grommet there is just too much irony here for me not to take some cheap shots...so this is my last "Conversation with the Dean"

"Ok... lets talk about the "sense of place" and your vision...to me the sculpture looks like a huge erect pole surrounded by a bed sheet. How does this fit with the church ?"

"The Church ? Oh no, The design criteria was referring to my place...my apartment."

"I see well then tell us about your vision"

I don't know I just woke up one morning and there it was

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Old 06-21-2009, 11:20 AM
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Well the votes were counted and the selection wasn't it. Whether you agreed or disagreed, this seems like a sham; why ask the public to vote and ignore their choice. Next the selection was justified as "...not wanting just another man on a horse..."! Had this been communicated to the artists submitting, you can be sure the submissions would have been different. And the artist just happens to be from Perth, a coincedence? I doubt it. In sports this would be a "homer" decision. I'm disappointed and feel scammed. I'll bet the nine who weren't selected feel similarly.
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Old 06-21-2009, 01:49 PM
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It's just this sort of mindless tripe that sends the average viewer rushing toward the cake frosting paintings of Thomas Kincade with open arms.
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Old 06-22-2009, 02:25 AM
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Re: Artists expose their submissions to public scrutiny

Why, after aLL, does George have a striking similarity to Quixote ??? Who is by the way a great idol. And more Saintly than a Christian Church's definition of a Saint. No offense intended.
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Old 06-22-2009, 08:32 AM
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Well congrats to Gil, I didn't know his was chosen until now. Despite there being criticisms from many different angles I think its important to support him and the work and not frown about it.

It will be interesting to see how it all turns out and I have a lot of questions, particularly about the production itself and costs and such and to me it looks like one of those things where one could easily walk away after a year or two of work and barely break-even, but it's just a hunch..
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Old 06-22-2009, 11:23 AM
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Well congrats to Gil, I didn't know his was chosen until now.
It wasn't. He received the most public support in votes, but was not given the commission.
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Old 06-23-2009, 10:51 AM
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Oh, I thought that's what it said when I clicked on the site.. So who won or are they still deciding?
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Old 06-23-2009, 11:16 AM
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Re: Artists expose their submissions to public scrutiny

the stick with the white flag on it won. I guess that is the only real way of defeating the dragons.. powerlessness.
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Old 06-23-2009, 11:48 AM
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Well of all the fine print nerve.. I just glanced and saw Gil's name first so I just assumed he got it.. My apologies to Gil, Marcus and Christian.. I did think his was going to get it based on the finalist's, but so much for that.. Anyway, on a positive note it could be a blessing in disguise as to me it looked very expensive to have something like that fabricated, while the flag and pole could be done cheaper..

Anyway; Congrat's to Marcus and Christian.
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Old 06-25-2009, 10:32 PM
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Re: Artists expose their submissions to public scrutiny

What a shame that all the effort came to this.

A mind-numbing travesty cooked up by a jury composed of museum curator snobs who are compelled to choose the most "radical" (and may I add local artist's) design to prove how hip and avant garde they are and to justify their positions at the bull-shit institutions where they wield their anti-esthetic snobbery.

What else can you expect from a bunch of isolated rubes in Perth? The dopes at St. George's deserve to live with this eyesore. Cheers!
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Old 06-27-2009, 09:18 AM
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Re: Artists expose their submissions to public scrutiny

What else can you expect from a bunch of isolated rubes in Perth?

well then of course there was this.....

http://australianscreen.com.au/title...r-texas/clip2/

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