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Old 12-13-2007, 08:12 PM
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Does anyone know what the colored finnish

on a koons work like the rabbit?
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Old 12-25-2007, 11:24 AM
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Re: Does anyone know what the colored finnish

Isn't it highly polished stainless?
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Old 12-25-2007, 02:56 PM
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Re: Does anyone know what the colored finnish

The Koons pieces you are referring to are the "Celebration" series, which are highly polished stainless that is then colored.
It is a bit mysterious exactly what it is.

The original bunny, from the early 80's, was merely polished stainless steel.

The current pieces, shown here
http://www.jeffkoons.com/site/index.html

are called stainless steel with transparent color coating.
My guess is this is a transparent laquer or automotive clear coat paint sprayed over the stainless.

However its done, it beastly expensive, labor intensive, and probably a lot more fragile than you would think.
When people pay $40 million for a piece, they tend to avoid fingerprints from toddlers, banging it with furniture, or dragging their car keys on it.

Koons himself went into debt to the tune of several million dollars making this series of work, and most of that undoubtedly went to the stainless fabricators, who first had to form the things from sheet, then polish them with successive grits for weeks on end, finally buffing em, then sending them out to be clearcoated with the tint.

Fussy.
Expensive.
Fragile.

Looks great, but dont touch.
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Old 12-25-2007, 06:11 PM
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Re: Does anyone know what the colored finnish

Koons is very aware that anything with a mirror finish looks great...and the more unexpected the object the better. He has the unique ability of being willing and able to make these things happen. I can think of worse things being brought into the world.
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Old 12-26-2007, 12:53 AM
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Re: Does anyone know what the colored finnish

I never really spent much time looking at his work before, some of it looks great and some looks like it's done by someone else entirely,.. Well anyway, I had heard he did some images of him and his wife having sexual relations and checked all of those out (for academic study). The actual sex seems rather vanilla from a stylistic perspective. There's some anal penetrations, which could be considered taboo by approximately 65% of the population at-large. I'm not sure what I expected, but it's a far cry from warden and the naughty escaped female prisoner or the tied up cuckold husband with a ball in his mouth and a leather mask.

Maybe I expected a baloon puppy dog three-some.

woof, woof, grrrr, grrrr, pop!

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Old 12-26-2007, 06:45 AM
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Re: Does anyone know what the colored finnish

You can achieve some what the type of effect with the transparent with the spray auto tinted clears. This seems to be the new choice for sockets and wrenches,coming from the far east.It is a lacquer type paint with a clear coating over it. Enclosed are a number of pictures I took for a posted thread on another forum on the coating.The coating is easily damaged even with the clear coat. The sockets are not highly polished stainless, but you get the idea. Harbor Fright has numerous examples they are selling.

Here is the canned version http://www.caswellplating.com/vht/du...metalcast.html

They also have a transparent powder coating that is stronger for the wear.
For the info on the powder coat.
http://www.eastwood.com/
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Old 12-26-2007, 08:22 PM
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Re: Does anyone know what the colored finnish

I have seen in person some colored stainless steel sculptures. I understand they are coated and perhaps baked in paints similar to those on motor car. Like cars, they can be highly buff polished and waxed. Perhaps some of Koon's earlier steel sculptures are coated this way.

But recently, as noticed by others here, his stainless steel sculptures are coated with colors that look transparent. One good example is his diamond sculptures that look like diamonds with different colors.


I don't expect Koons to do the painting and buffing himself. He just think through the ideas, investigate and pay to pursue them.
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Old 12-27-2007, 09:38 AM
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Re: Does anyone know what the colored finnish

Without giving away any proprietary secrets, someone with the fabrication company explained the process for the Balloon Dog. This included many coats of clear and tinted automotive finish, roughly 6 to 12 coats as I recall. This makes the parts very difficult to handle for the large pieces that need to be assembled. The coating is so thick that it remains soft for a long period of time. Transport requires specially built crates which suspend the pieces at their connection points. In the event that a piece is scratched or damaged, it gets stripped down and the process starts all over again. $$$$
I recall seeing one of the early BUNNIES and it looked like it may have been chrome plated.
Someone in the SUPERHERO thread made reference to there not being a memorial for the unknown artist. I would nominate these works attributed to Jeff Koons. The work involved and level of craftsmanship by the fabricators are incredible. Anyone that has ever tried to mirror polish stainless or get a perfect paint finish will certainly know the difficulty of achieving these surfaces, especially on a large scale. Lots and lots of time, money and serious labor.
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