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Old 07-29-2015, 04:36 PM
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The Old Days

I DO miss those days when this forum was on fire,

when protagonists, antagonists, villains, super-heros, sainted ones, heathens, know-it-alls, scraphounds, atelierists, posers, pastors, self-proclaimed masters, rebel rousers, whiners, charlatans, stoics, pompous-asses, dipshits, geniuses, hipsters, teachers, students, amateur-pros, professional amateurs, tool monkeys, material junkies and overall disciples to the three-dimensional

roamed these pages with joy and rage.

Perhaps it can be so again beyond the dispersed and mean'd social media scope that is so too-easy and too handy. We did not become sculptors to follow the easy.
I propose a Renaissance. And in the name of Michealangelo, I will try to bring it and bring it fresh with the fresh help of the meager numbers still coming around (here). But I guess I should warn the casual members who have arrived since I departed; you might not like me (or, you will like me alot and there can be relationships that maintain for many years as I have established with some members).
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Old 07-29-2015, 05:00 PM
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Re: The Old Days

I've noticed that forums in general seem to be suffering a bit of a slump, with either very little activity or just being dumping grounds for links to the sort of pseudo-journalism that seems to be the curse of the internet at the moment...you know 7 amazing facts about {insert name here} which will blow your mind.

I suspect that part of the problem is that the internet never quite managed to develop a workable system of politeness to allow proper discussions and now things are polarized between fairly bland small talk and unrestrained vitriol.

And as you say, since every interaction or transaction ever now asks for some sort of comment there is a bit of fatigue setting in.
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Old 07-30-2015, 01:48 AM
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Re: The Old Days

Forums in general seemed to have lost popularity in recent years as twitter and Facebook came out and most people are using that horrible format now with it's infinite scroll Infinite scroll never worked well years ago, and it sure doesn't now especially when there's hundreds or thousands of pictures in it. That's one reason I dumped flickr.com the change to an infinite scrolling page with thousands of images embedded into it that continuously load and slow the browser down to a crawl.
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Old 07-30-2015, 03:58 PM
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Re: The Old Days

Some of us still like to share our thoughts in forums. The trick is to come up with interesting and provocative topics; something that gets people riled up enough to bother writing a comment. Even a question on some obscure technique or material can be enough to get a heated debate going. Any ideas?

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Old 07-30-2015, 06:35 PM
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Re: The Old Days

The Old Days had their undeniably great aspects, but for the two or so years before this forum suddenly died, I had begun to notice that many people, including some of the oldest members, were dropping away as more and more often they were ignored or even ridiculed by a, you could call it a ruling clique, that seemed to consider any but their own tastes in art to be passe. Especially any type of figurative art, or, God Forbid, portraiture. Although this forum now lacks the lively discussions of yesteryear, it is a place where artists can come to both share their work and to find solutions to their problems.

I do miss the lively discussions, but I do not miss the exclusiveness and the arrogance that held forth here in the final years.

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Old 08-23-2015, 04:27 PM
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Really good to see your name around here again, Matt.

Indeed, it would be nice to see this place clanking together once again.


Where have most of you been posting, if at all? I assume, like Art-Deco mentioned, that Facebook/Twitter have filled the gaps.
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Old 08-24-2015, 01:58 AM
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Re: The Old Days

This one is more up my street

http://figurativesculptors.com/

But unfortunately its deader than this one
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Old 08-24-2015, 06:19 PM
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Re: The Old Days

I tried to breathe some life into that forum several years ago, but to no avail.

There is another one that was really good, with some real top notch professional metal workers that suddenly just died. artmetal.com
It died almost overnight.

My metal polishing forum used to have maybe ten posts a day. The last time someone posted was back in June.

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Old 09-07-2015, 11:38 PM
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Where have most of you been posting, if at all? I assume, like Art-Deco mentioned, that Facebook/Twitter have filled the gaps.
I've been making use of facebook some, but not much for sculpture related content, I have my own forum but it's only for me to post to.
I know "Scout" who used to post here moved to some facebook group, she came to my forum a year or so ago, posted a few times and that was about it, I don't know what group she went to or even if it's still active.

I was part of that artspan forum as a moderator but they shut it down when their admin lost control of the foreign mass-registrations spamming, I was also part of another sculpture forum at mysculpturesgallery, moderating it with others, but it was getting little more than new people signing up to ask us how much some bric-a-brac they found at a garage sale was worth and leaving.
I got tired of having to tell the people the same thing over and over that we were not a free appraisal service for the potmetal lamps and bookends they found at garage sales but a fine art and sculpture forum. I left that one when I decided I no longer wanted to do that or work alongside another moderator whose language and spelling skills were absolutely embarassing, he was at the fifth grade level at best.


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This one is more up my street

http://figurativesculptors.com/

But unfortunately its deader than this one
I've been there briefly quite a while back, one guy I think runs it on his personal site, it was pretty dead then, I deleted my bookmark and login cookie info.


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I tried to breathe some life into that forum several years ago, but to no avail.

There is another one that was really good, with some real top notch professional metal workers that suddenly just died. artmetal.com
It died almost overnight.

My metal polishing forum used to have maybe ten posts a day. The last time someone posted was back in June.

Richard
I saw one the other day that looked interesting: http://www.iforgeiron.com/

I haven't made any new models in months, just buying various artifacts and antiques mostly, and also sold off my gallery building last month.
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Old 09-08-2015, 04:23 AM
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Re: The Old Days

Hey raspero
Thanks for getting back to me... I thought that I heard a echo!
I am pleased that you like the prophet, my work is getting more and more abstract and less and less figurative, I like the direction!

Headed into 3D printing as I would like to merge the digital with the analog.
I'll let you know how that works out for me!

I am showing again in Vancouver on the 29 Oct at Petley Jones Gallery, 1554 West 6th Avenue, Vancouver, BC V6J 1R2

I hope that Stan and Lloyd can come I would love to see them again, they were great fun. Please pass on the invitation for me. Thanks

Art Deco
I have seen a lot of these forums come and go and i think that this one is among the best of them. It has been around a long time and I find the people here serious about the sculpture that they create.
As well there is a great deal of information here already and I find a good response if I have questions or want opinions... I like that a lot.

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Old 08-29-2015, 12:53 AM
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Re: The Old Days

Hi Eval and hi everyone.... yes I too, miss the good old days exchanges here. Beyond the undeniable fact that this fórum went dead rather quickly, lays the question what really happened ? Not to dwell on matters beyond topic, but THAT would not be a bad topic to start back and avoid stands that started to kill the fórum in first place. WTF happened ? interesting analysis... Some just stated their reasons driving them away. Would you care to share what bugged you in an atempt to make this fórum come alive ? My view is that some of us are great at doing sculpture, othes are not that good but are great at talking about and theorizing over still unanswered aspects of this nourishing form of art , very few are good at both... inability to not take criticism personally and boredom coming from over elaborate assays and exchanges, may just be some causes. All within those three groups I mentioned above should recognize virtues intrinsic to all, and thus make the exchanges here in this fórum a fun, nourishing and relaxing experience, avoiding excess as possible....
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Old 08-29-2015, 04:36 AM
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Re: The Old Days

Nothing drove me away. I use to visit every day but now less frequently. Thats because I am less active at the moment in my sculpture, so have less to post.
Another reason I visit is to see the work of others. Now less work is being shown I dont need to visit as often.
I wasnt really interested in the arty discussions so dont really miss that.
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Old 08-29-2015, 09:39 AM
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Re: The Old Days

This is an awesome open forum on the net and we should revive it. Richard, do you really think it was arrogance? I almost never felt that way. Challenging, yes, high standards, yes, freedom of expression, yes, openness yes, critical assessment of work, yes, help if you asked for it, YES! Of course, some of the words hurt, we all have an ego, and to be honest, as artists, probably more fragile and sensitive than the rest, but I always considered the source, and found no malice. I learned, I grew, I was challenged to think. All good things.
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Old 08-29-2015, 03:10 PM
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It´s been long....What about sharing what you guys have been doing , workwise, artewise, any wise ??? I must confess sculpture became to me a thing of the past, unfortunately. Daily chores and work for the money have taken most of my time, good part of which I used to dedícate to expressing myself through sculpture. Frustrating episodes have slapped me only to realice I may have put off my dearest trade, but mi mind spins around it and longs to take it back. Lately, I felt like I used to, namely sculpting without thinking how long it takes, if it will sell, and does it have to be shown at a gallery ....? Hell, there´s more to it tan that, so I´m planning like I said to get myself togeher and indulge in a activity that like few are soul and mind rewarding. Will share on due time.
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Old 08-29-2015, 09:27 PM
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I am looking forward to your sculpture, Nelson!
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Old 08-30-2015, 08:19 PM
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It's hard to find a community that will help you grow into who you wish to be, instead of who they think you should be.
The place where people make room for you at the table is where I gravitated to. When the overbearing opinions followed, I did some weeding.
The voices I value now are deeply engaged in their own exploration and have passions I appreciate. They also are humble people, or strive to be. They are passionate about politics, poetry, art, human rights, nature, cultural activities, being a good human.
My sculpture has continued to be a source of self expression, and has gained some attention in the city's arts community.
We grow, we move on to live people who support our goals, grateful for those who got us that far.
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Old 08-30-2015, 09:13 PM
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Wow, nice to hear old Friends coming back. Thanks Erika. I love your sculpture too. Where have all the other media you've been exploring taken you? How has that journey influenced your sculpture if you still engage on that form of expresión?

Hi Ann ! Nice to hear you´re back, please don´t leave....you two are great female assets here !

Speaking of assets, what about that guy named Joe if I remember well, LOL. another fun dude to have around. Hope he and so many others show up...
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Old 02-05-2016, 10:32 PM
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I propose a Renaissance. And in the name of Michealangelo, I will try to bring it and bring it fresh with the fresh help of the meager numbers still coming around (here).
Hah!

What better time than the new year?
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I spend way to much time on FB and get sucked into political crap. I used to post on art sites to judge number of likes.. Big waste of time. I sell my work local face to face and have been getting enough commissions to cover my esoteric sculptural works. It's sad that this forum has lost so many people, used to be so vibrant , and the professional discussions were great. I suppose like me many members have migrated to FB but it's sad....
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Old 02-16-2016, 01:55 AM
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A renaissance hey? I've always been torn between the classicist and the cubist.
Anyone listen to podcasts? You should listen to "The Sculptors Funeral" it's pretty interesting. I try to check it out when I'm. Not running my Metabos or blasting swamp rock.
There you go. I anti ed up some info. What do you guys have other than lamentation for days gone by?
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Old 02-29-2016, 06:46 PM
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The 'Good Old Days' were when the internet was relatively young and we (relative old timers) were finding the joy of communicating with others who were on parallel, convergent, or divergent paths. I never got into the aesthetic quibbling so much as the details of the nuts and bolts of process. Those were the things that made this forum valuable to me. But stonecarvers (I consider myself one, though I work in many media) are a conservative bunch on the whole. <grin> And I found the technical help queries posted to be less and less about my areas of expertise (stone) and more about almost everything else, so my log-ins here became less frequent. I post of facebook periodically, though I only log-on perhaps once every couple of weeks (not terribly interested in what my 'friends' had for breakfast on a daily basis), still have my website and update periodically, but find my tumblr blog (fromthedust.tumblr.com) a more convenient way of conveying my retrospective thoughts on a wide variety of art topics. One thing about the 'Good Old Days' is you can never go back, only forward. Remember fondly. My two cents.

And — for what it is worth — the idea of collaboration in producing artwork is one I have experimented with many times since this forum became less visited (though one sprang out of the forum quite directly). Collaboration with other artists is like a dialog without words, and usually producing quite invigorating results. Each collaboration has taken a different turn, and has opened my perceptions in new ways as we feel and respond to each others' aesthetics. Attached is most recent example wherein Corlia K. (painter and sculptor) did the seed piece consisting of a Batman profile cut out of an old circuit-board, pharmacy bottle with flowers in it, wood box, and aluminum leafing. I responded with circuit-board cut-out of Nancy, pharmacy bottle with printed comic-book 'POW', 'BOOM', and 'BANG's, slate backer, and filling the box with computer parts and soil. My title (for an upcoming exhibit in which it will be displayed) is ALTER EGO (NANCY WINS OUT).
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There is little here for me as realist to gain, so I stopped coming. Plus I'm way too busy.
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Sales have pretty much dropped to almost zero in the last year or so to maybe one small item in a month or two, down from a high of like $800 a week, so I stopped doing any more new models or molds about a year ago. The last couple hundred pounds of water clay I have sitting in the studio for a couple of years now is probably dried out enough to be unworkable and will likely be thrown out next time I do some cleaning.

A couple of years ago I was going to look at investing in a large oval kiln and have my house incoming power line upgraded to handle it, and do some more high quality hand pressed terracotta pieces, but there's been absolutely no interest or even inquiries on that version of my designs at all, so I won't be buying that $3000 kiln or spending $2000 to upgrade the power now.

I've more or less moved on to other stuff and interests, I don't see sculpture being viable any longer and the market is very unlikely to suddenly do a 180, tastes, times, and peoples' spending habits have changed it seems, so it's time to move on, take care all.
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