song du jour

[chris 71]

i just discovered this awesome acdc song. dont know how i never heard it before, used to listen to acdc all the time growing up. what a voice bon scott had just awesome. a real drinking song. i think i hear him talking about drowing from drinking which is how he met his end .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-02JtQoZ48&feature=related

[GlennT]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyjsoO4islY&feature=related

[craigktx]

i just discovered this awesome acdc song. dont know how i never heard it before, used to listen to acdc all the time growing up. what a voice bon scott had just awesome. a real drinking song. i think i hear him talking about drowing from drinking which is how he met his end .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-02JtQoZ48&feature=related

I don't remember that either.

[Ries]

The pride of Oklahoma City.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwlC0QWxj88

[evaldart]

Awesome Ries. I've been a fan forever...seen them twice. Check this recent cover.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OdEVx7gsgg

[Ries]

I hadnt realized that the Flaming Lips did an entire Pink Floyd cover album of Dark Side of the Moon.
Gonna have to find me some of that...

[evaldart]

Yes indeed, what a concept. I can live without the Pink Floyd version, but perhaps not the Lips version.

[Ries]

E escapes gravity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sHj6V1lfek

[evaldart]

Yer on a roll Ries. That is my favorite Eels tune for sure. I saw them at Maxwells in Hoboken after the follow-up to Beautiful Freak. It was kind of downer material, though (E's mom having had just passed away...I think).

Around this same period I came to appreciate another one man band in Sparklehorse. This was my favorite of his.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_0wlBQwHRg

[Ries]

Unfortunately, just a few weeks ago, Mark Linkous, who is Sparklehorse, shot himself. In the chest, with a hunting rifle, in his friends backyard, of all things.

I was sad for days.

my favorite sparklehorse was the Happy Man stuff-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJnch_ugp2c

Just before he died, he did an album with DangerMouse, which is pretty interesting. I dont think it was ever released- I got it online, torrent-like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyw41iKqF8c&feature=related

Linkous does not sing that much- he wrote lyrics and plays, though.

I am a fan of anything Dangermouse does- His album with MFDoom,
DangerDoom, is a classic, in which they use the Adult Swim cartoons as fodder for intelligent mayhem.

Tying it all together in one cosmic string ball, here is Sparklehorse, singing with Radiohead, doing a Pink Floyd cover version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyv_DFzG2SI&feature=related

[evaldart]

Holy crap! I hadnt heard! Yes, its a loss.

And another here (and I'm sure you'll know where he fits in to this picture we're making here. I dont, really - Anders Parker/Varnaline) I've got an old obviously homemade demo that he did on a 4 track cassette recorder (in his bedroom?) that later got re-recorded with a band and was released on cd to critical acclaim. I couldn't find those recordings on Youtube though. Its likely a rarity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-Ulna_9Oe8&feature=related

[Ries]

Another Jersey Boy.

Two Dollar Guitar.

http://www.myspace.com/twodollarguitar

I really like the song "Wilding".

[evaldart]

Ha, Steve Shelley is the drummer. I made some furniture for him back in the nineties. Didnt know he was still in Hoboken...Guess Sonic Youth is spread all round these days. Thurston and Kim live in the next town over from me...they all do the NYC commute for gigs I suppose.

Ries, as more and more of this comes out I see we have more similarities than differences.:D

How are you fixed for norwiegan pop?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhJAfiYPKI0&feature=related

I love the lead guitarist's tone in this band.

[Ries]

The guitar is interesting, but the rest of it was putting me to sleep.

Heres a test- can you recognize the essential genius of THIS?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psaHLi7-DIs&feature=channel

Mystikal is finally out of jail, and N'Orleans is rejoicing.

[evaldart]

I suppose any genius that Mystikal possesses has to do with "tude". Getting yer ass whooped might be a small price to pay for the fun of particpating. Anyhow, the Neptunes gave him a voice - with much music its the producers that need to give us the genius. The performers just do their thing. I had hopes for Sisquo...but he blew it.

Okay, then. See if you can fall asleep to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFpFUOLRNPI


I tell ya, them viking hipsters can make some cool pop music (as opposed to the blood curdling metal that their satanic kinsmen are mostly known for).

[Ries]

The thinking mans rapper, remixed by Four Tet.

No white boys, no guitars.
(Four Tet is a white boy, but he is the wizard behind the curtain, so he hardly counts, plus he still isnt playing a guitar)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtA_OeMwsSY

[tonofelephant]

Just to lighten up the song du jour - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w75givGyduk . The Breaking Winds in Lady Gaga Saga . A perfomance by a quartet of bassonists putting the rockers above to shame.

Carl

[Ries]

Even a schmaltzmeister like Steve Miller hits paydirt once in a while.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-Xs57jEPJc

I am not sure exactly what the sculpture equivalent is to

" you dont have to worry about being alone,
cause you can make your music on a ten cent comb"

but I aspire towards it.

[Ries]

I lived in LA for ten years.
I love LA.
If I had the money, I would spend a month or so a year there.

Three songs about LA, whether they know it or not...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ9KfKx8PmM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laIy1PgcVnA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1u5Yir0E5Y

[evaldart]

Love the Soul Coughing.

Check this one as an energized aside (and some earsplitting power-chord).http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-dl9KTYAVk

[jOe~]

Well, DJ Ries, that last post was one mighty fine offering.

Eval, Where's Me Jumper? good one.

[tobias]

E Sultans of ping ? You dog what else do you have lurking in your closet. THis sounds amazingly like early punk from the euro trash set. lol awsome

[evaldart]

Postapocaplyptica...one of my favorite genres.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nSezRWIH6g&feature=related

[craigktx]

Postapocaplyptica...one of my favorite genres.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nSezRWIH6g&feature=related
Good one.

[Ries]

3 more LA stories.

This first one is tough to find a way to link to. The only way I know is to go here- then click on "New Blue Mercedes". I mean, really, all Stan Ridgway is great, but New Blue Mercedes is killer.

http://www.myspace.com/drywallstanridgway/music/playlists/featured-songs-328103

then, this- a perfect description of life in the neighborhood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIqHFUNfnAk


Warren, of course, nails it.
He got REM to be his backing band, minus that Micheal Stipe dude, of course, and cut a great album, from which comes this description of Hollywood hustlers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTpqG6luifQ

[evaldart]

I was born in East L.A. (San Gabriel); lived there for years. And this song reminds me of that hood better than any other. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qk9NzAPOKQ

[evaldart]

Okay, lets start the day off with a little Rock Lobster....LIVE.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UqKRGW6_rw&feature=related

[jOe~]

Yup. Saw the B-52's and Tom Tom club in Seattle, way back when.

[evaldart]

And its a fun video too....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBaxRYGtrkI&feature=related

[craigktx]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os33ljB76zQ&feature=related

puke.

[Ries]

even though the Melvins are homeboys, from Seattle, I have a hard time getting excited- they just take themselves so damn seriously.


I had an urge to hear these guys this morning.
They never took themselves, or anything else, that seriously.
I actually have a Tuli original- a friend bought me a drawing of his a few years ago, Tuli was selling em on the sidewalk in the lower east side.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hadRsj4W4qg

[evaldart]

It takes 2 minutes for that three minute Fugs song to get good...more funny than fun.

The Melvins are slow and heavy...sometimes you just want slow and heavy.

and sometimes you want to move. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsH09sUfWwQ&feature=related

[craigktx]

DEATH GRINDER, you may want to turn the volume down.:eek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ivax7CX3zh0

[craigktx]

RIP RJD.:(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmSt1oEIshE

[evaldart]

Im with you on that one brother.:( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJRb4iCgRWw&feature=related

[craigktx]

Im with you on that one brother.:( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJRb4iCgRWw&feature=related

I wore out more than one Dio cassette tape in high school.

[evaldart]

I wore out more than one Dio cassette tape in high school.
I wore out a few Dio t-shirts too. wish I still had em...cause the e-bay prices are gonna go through the roof now.:D

[tobias]

Some supersonic noise from DC
www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVhVOp44i3k&feature=related

[tobias]

The melvins may have taken them selves seriously but man were they fun to see live!!

[tobias]

THat hot choco video is hilarious man, great song but holy get stoned and go bowling.. woo hoo

[StevenW]

Wow, RJD paid the check, that sucks.. I saw him in 1983 opened for Aerosmith and blew them away.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo4xVCBSzOI&feature=related

[evaldart]

This should get us in the mood for metal mangling. I had always thought that was Ike on guitar...but I should have recognized that TRex tone.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLGBxSHdxUc&feature=related

[evaldart]

its rainy today....a song about sunshinehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9tLw0uiC7Y

[Ries]

I still believe in music, and the Jazz Butcher always makes me happy.

"Its better than a cold bath with someone you dislike"..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUAM4s_ODng

[evaldart]

Man I had a rough day today. I needed this one.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqAh1dQu_pg

[obseq]

Some I-just-finished-work music for me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww3h43RZJnQ

[GlennT]

E's post put me in a 60's memory lane distraction, and I came upon this, which seems to be Marvin Gaye's vocal track isolated so as to seem a cappella. What a voice!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87FjkqtK67o

[StevenW]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7ZPMScX9-k

Stevie..

[evaldart]

Trippy new Smoove Sailors vid. D's on the moog.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vzWeMgTLCM&feature=player_embedded

Just hanging and doin their thing.

[evaldart]

Okay hippies andhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX5nOTZyaHo&feature=related sixties folk. I was 5 when the original came out...

[jOe~]

I was experienced when it came out. Sorry, but a 3:41' version(radio length), doesn't cut it. Plus, the Slayer version has got the vibe wrong. I don't get it.

[evaldart]

Yeah, Slayer tends to "Slayerize" everything. Thats both good and bad, depending on your mood at the time.

[ironman]

That slayer version of "In a gadda da vida" is awful. Where the F is Iron Butterfly?

[evaldart]

Heres a hippie classic. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAkPmrA6cCU

[GlennT]

I'll see your stoner hippie classic and raise you one flower-child hippie classic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0J77CRMeTA

[jOe~]

Heres a hippie classicI really don't think I ever heard that one Eval. But, there is a very nice shop in town here called Peace of Mind. Glass ware that goes for 10k.

I'll see your stoner hippie classic and raise you one flower-child hippie classic: Stoner v.s.flower-child? For me the ultimate was the Beatles. All of their music was and is trippy. Iron Butterfly, Hendrix, Doors were up there. The rest didn't send me that far, seemed a bit forced. But then I've probably forgotten a few.

[evaldart]

I like that one Glenn...have it on one of my old mix tapes. And yeah, the beatles were the real thing.

Check out the motor City Madman playing guitar on this nuggethttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN2VNFpiGWo

[jOe~]

Yeah, I forgot that one Eval. Jeez, the video even had go-go girls!

And yeah, the beatles were the real thing.I first started listening to them with a mono transistor radio in grade school (the proper words hadn't been invented to describe the experience at the time). Later, in my first year of college they blew my mind a second time. Then I could understand better what happened in grade school. Third time was not too long ago when a young friend turned me on to the Love Album.

[evaldart]

a great cover of the Monkees best song (written for them by Carol King). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SNl-7lPbHM

[chris 71]

new song im really likin it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwENuEZ7XPc

[StevenW]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFtmdorQG-U&feature=related

[jOe~]

Yeah, Steven. It rubbed off big time on Quentin Tarantino ( krice, what a name).

[evaldart]

I was 7 when this hit the airwaves. Its a horrible tale yet I always HAD to listen to the whole thing. My exasperated mom would leave me in the car with the keys turned backwards as she progressed to her task. I sat mesmerized by the unfolding disaster being dictated in tune.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNyGNjf4EUs&feature=related

[jOe~]

Eval. I watched the entire video. Don't know what to say. Made me think of Goya.

[chris 71]

ya that was quite the song and video heres another from that era goose bump city for me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJCTrolF3CY&feature=related

[evaldart]

Hell yeah! Thanks Chris. That dose of DP and Ritchie Blackmore's shredding just amped me up good. Way better than the mere cup of coffee I came in for. And man could Ian scream!

[GlennT]

Some basic summer fun:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvVvjLlR9RU

And the adjacent selection, "I Will Survive, Stillwater style" is pretty amazing.

[Ries]

Zorn does Morricone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYVYsVthw9A

[StevenW]

Nice one Ries,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqJOsNMhIRo&feature=related

[Ries]

Ornette.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qhbzolr5QV8

from which enormous swaths of contemporary music are descended.
the man is a genius, and a leader.

In 1959, when he released The Shape of Jazz To Come, he changed the face of music.
Coltrane, Miles, and a bunch of other truly amazing musicians sat up and took notice, and it filtered down from Jazz into rock, with people like the Grateful Dead, MC5, Zappa and Beefheart, Iggy and the Stooges, Lou Reed, John and Yoko, Patti Smith, Television, and the previously mentioned John Zorn all were heavily influenced by Ornette and his playing.

Jam bands in general, like Phish, are all descended from the Dead playing like Ornette.
A lot of punk rock, and a lot of post punk noise bands, like DNA, wouldnt exist without Ornette.


This album, Science Fiction, from 1971, is still pretty amazing, and to this day pretty much nobody can play like Ornette.

If the US had national living treasures, like Japan does, I would nominate Ornette.

[evaldart]

I used to go to the old Knitting Factory on Houston street just before the end of happy-hour about quarter to 6. Cause after that they'd strat charging the 5 dollar cover for the band that would be playing at 8. So many times it was one of Zorn's many concoctions (Masada, Painkiller, etc...or just a bunch of his East Village friends). He was usually late, would stride in in a hurry as if he'd just climbed out of bed and begin his honking and tweeting in-time with the others who were always already going. Very enjoyable chaos/nonsense/noise. One time Mick Harris (drummer from Napalm Death) was in charge of percussion and hammered the shit out of everyone else with lightning quick double-base to the degree that Z was blue in the face trying to be heard (and he was always heard with that damned squeaky sax of his).

A few years later my brother recorded and performed with him for a spell that had him introduced to the NYC underground (Eliot Sharp, Mike Patton, bill Laswell et al). I would check them out at Tonic then (as the NEW Knitting factory was mostly edgeless - Zorn had little to do with it anymore).

Thanks for the memories Ries.

[Ries]

I didnt live in NYC, so I didnt see much of that music live, but I love a lot of it anyway.

Ever heard Zorn's entire album tribute to Ornette?
He Zorn-izes Ornette, and its pretty successful-

Its called Spy Vs. Spy.

pretty wild stuff.

[evaldart]

Although I believe in everything Zorn is about(jazz, thrash, grind, post-punk, extreme zydeco metal...you name it, I can only take him in small doses ( the good stuff only gets 12.3% of my listening due due the many bands and styles of music that I'll refer to as guilty pleasures); Because so much music functions as pleasure alongside the churn of the day, I'd rather not have to stop and listen too hard...because it might just be too damned GOOD:D. This is not to devalue the other music that aligns itself with my split attention (as opposed to the music that commands every damned bit of it) but THAT music is wrought with the "purpose" of "toning" my environment - so that all kinds of necessities get undertaken.

Check this one my brother did with Zorn (who gave him some good space on guitar - which was rare).http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCCZjQ39_AU

[Ries]

The incomparable Al Green, from his strange moody album Belle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhzYaDlfDLM

[craigktx]

Another miss by the storm gods, well maybe next time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BmEGm-mraE

[StevenW]

Newer stuff..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw4-4D9GJFo&feature=related

[Ries]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hTnWf8y2W0

A great american guitar player died this month.
Y'all can have your Stevie Ray- I will take Gary Shider any day.

his guitar is part of my soul, thats for sure-
Cosmic Slop
One Nation Under a Groove
and tons more of some of the greatest funk guitar ever played.


make my funk the P Funk.
I want my funk uncut.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOvAwWR87P8

wish I could have been at this concert.
I did see George a couple of times, and Bootsy solo twice too, but nothing this scenic.

I was once at a triple bill of Funkadelic, the Red Hot Chili Peppers, and the Beastie Boys at the Hollywood Paladium, and for the encore they all sang together- that was pretty memorable.

[evaldart]

Good morning............................http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Spu7FWs8ik&feature=related

[chris 71]

tried to find a video of the actully performence of this but couldnt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00OBFUI7-Jw&feature=PlayList&p=5899B738F9BCD63D&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=27

[StevenW]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCHmwi5bMso&feature=related

this one bedda, Michael landau was/is the sh*t.

[underfoot]

Beat poetry for the unbeliever, yeah, it's nine minutes out of your life, but time not wasted imo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0W7Jbc_Vhw

[StevenW]

That was pretty good Underfoot. :)

[sculptor]

fer me laddies and lassies

'tain't much brings me up more'n BLACK VELVET
by Alannah Myles

being an old geezer, I'm partial to her 80's version
but there's a newer one from aught 7

here's the link for the older one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIlMR4pZ2DQ

love the heavy backbeat------------base dominated contrast to her voice

ok
and,
here's the newer version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVnfbiG0gg

is it just me?
as always
confusedly yours
rod
or d'ya also favor the original?

(crank the speakers and enjoy)

[StevenW]

Oh, and here I was thinking the first one was the new one.. :D

[sculptor]

Oh, and here I was thinking the first one was the new one.. :D

ok
got a preference?

and then:

the finn:

karelia suite (less dynamic than finnlandia, and less ponderous than much of his work---but, when done well, lots of fun)

I'll look for the link to my favorite arrangement later

.....................
any of you detroit people love the frost?
"a long way down from Mobile" ?

[sculptor]

sibelius

symphonies 4,5, and 6

wow
and wow again

[evaldart]

My new favorite video. Hah, a dandy.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq9G4PhIZi8

[GlennT]

And there I was, on a different thread, trying to have a serious conversation with evaldart about food!:rolleyes::eek:

[evaldart]

another classichttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMaycNcPsHI

[craigktx]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rcyAF4lz04&feature=related


more beer.:D

[evaldart]

thanks for that Craig...made my night.

[evaldart]

btw....noone is allowed to cover Napalm Death except Jello (Dead Kennedys)

this one will blow you away.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TMsquzm3AQ

[evaldart]

whoda thunk......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx2VlOz4pXE

gloriously wierd

[StevenW]

Ya I liked that, I heard,.. maybe I'm wrong, but I heard Neil Young was doing another album..

[evaldart]

These guys serve the tone for swinging a hammer.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5oC-cickHM

[craigktx]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrML6s1wNHk

one of those days.

[Ries]

These guys can swing a hammer too- but they are old enough they dont have to name themselves "Vomitus" or "Decapitator".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjwVwASlVn4

[tobias]

Love that tune Ries.

[evaldart]

I know where Coltraine fits in...and for me...it aint hammer swinging music. Its just plain ol "swingin".

If your swingin your hammer to jazz...then your working non-ferrous. Thats all.

[Ries]

Not all of us are so predictable.
I can swing a hammer to Tom Waits, or Captain Beefheart, just fine.

Anyway-

Ex-Punk, Ex-CowPunk, Texan thru and thru,
great guitar player and songwriter, Alejandro Escovedo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H1mjmuCwhk

[evaldart]

Rockin good song there Ries. But he didnt do anything special with the guitar at all (in fact, I'd say he didnt warrant that Gibson SG for that mere strumming). Find us a song where he tears it up. The fiddle player, on the other hand, kicked ass.

[craigktx]

two for ya.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-jOEAufDQ4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXy6JHYa5Ks

[evaldart]

Daaaaaaamn! great stuff Craig. That second one sounds like Portishead partying with Placebo. Awesome.

Beer songs huh? Okay, I got one for ya. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9gkhdOFTpI&feature=related

[StevenW]

Well being that it's friday the 13th and all i figured some spooky music was in order.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kGPhpvqtOc

Happy 13th and stay safe. :)

[chris 71]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywZNV4nbsMA&feature=related

[tobias]

Steve that looks like the set for a TV show called the hilarious house of frightenstein.

[StevenW]

I dig it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eptj2EZ4xE&feature=related

Little Mazzy..

[jOe~]

effin eh Steven, you're on a roll! Screamin' J is the bestest of the best. An then you follow up with Mazzy.......... I never took you to be a freakout freak.

[craigktx]

Good one Steven but more thump is needed today:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=953PkxFNiko

[Mack]

This is Stroke Nine's big hit. My son John is on the left playing lead guitar...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0yYCqkt0VE

[jOe~]

Way cool Mack!

[Mack]

When John and my daughter were growing up, we played alot of Bach, Mozart,etc. and a lot of very cool jazz, standards at home ...i think you can feel those influences coming through here in this cut:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4fN_shVm4s&NR=1

[Ries]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ksyFlnH870

the great american national treasure, Swamp Dogg.

a bit of n'awlins, a bit of soul, a bit of strangeness.

He was way before his time, his lyrics were complicated and intellectual when everybody else was just "lovin you, girl".

And he plays a mean barrelhouse piano. Or, on this cut, the organ that sounds like it was Garth from "Music from Big Pink".

Still alive and touring, big in europe.

[Ries]

I get bored of just listening to white boys.
Girl energy is good energy.

Ani channels funk mixed with Tom Waits.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb6hVoXmihc

[Mack]

Tough song...take a moment and enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=852gverKRPo&feature=related

[grhb]

Right on for the swamp dogg stuff, ries.

[Ries]

girls can play guitar too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FI0EO6KQrM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNvzxvc5xmQ&feature=related

[Ries]

The Godmother.
But she aint very Fairy.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWQSBu2SFZg&feature=related

When Radio Ethiopia came out, it ripped off the top of my skull.
Imagine if little Thurston Moore had never heard this- Sonic Youth would have sounded like Boston or something instead.
And the ten thousand Sonic Youth knockoff bands would still be playing Beatles covers.

[rika]

Happy Birthday, Freddie!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRA0gTcPaio&feature=related

[evaldart]

great one Rika. The best singer in the history of mankind.

[GlennT]

Mercury was one of the most compelling singers of our era. For a birthday tribute number, I may have selected "Spread Your Wings" or "Don't Stop Me Now". Top spot has some tough competition, however; Sinatra, Judy Garland, Bing Crosby, Ella Fitzgerald, Pavorati, Jessye Norman, Aretha Franklin, Marvin Gaye, Joni Mitchell...not to mention the pretty darn good; Sting, Paul McCartney, Sarah Brighton, Gino Vanelli, Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin, Al Green, Julie Andrews, James Taylor, Jeff Buckley, Simon and Garfunkel, Katie McMahon, Jenny Lind (apparently), and my friend Jason Parkin, who as a small boy sang the famous Oscar Mayer Weiner jingo!

[StevenW]

Wilhelm,.. nuff said,.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6txOvK-mAk&feature=related

[GlennT]

Hard to do a smooth transition from the beautiful Moonlight Sonota.
For the non-classical music folks, here is yet another possible musical antidote to the 9-11 clash of civilizations:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvy_Q61160g

[Ries]

Now Spirit is one place we can agree.
I love Spirit.
Takes me back to the days of dropping acid and hitchiking, and getting beat up for having long hair.

I have a big appetite for California Psychedelic stuff-

one of my favorites is always LOVE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uZtAArvvlk

[Ries]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLRX7bZH41g

the summer of love.
and the greatest finnish american guitar player.
film by Goddard.

whats not to like?

[StevenW]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1OIxxPQrns&feature=related

This is for king Coleman, who passed last weekend.. He wrote "(do the) mashed potatoes" sung by James Brown. Down in the basement I think is my fave.

[Ries]

I liked that King Coleman.

but today, the Frank Sinatra of Grunge-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJB6jFAwDNA

which isnt really all that accurate- after all, Grunge, from the outset, was the mixing of the wild anarchy of punk, with the plodding chops of arena rock heavy metal- that was the explicit goal of the first wave of grunge, bands like Green River, Mudhoney, the MonoMen, Soundgarden and Tad. And the real successful grunge bands followed that road- The Rooster, by Alice in Chains, could easily have been written by Blue Oyster Cult, and Eddie Vedder was often hard to tell from Dave Mustaine, if the light was dim- leonine manes, wavering falsettos, and thundering power chords.

Meanwhile, Dulli and the Whigs were wearing suits, skinny ties, and hair product.

And there are only the slightest whisps of punk OR metal in their music- its more like a mix of Let It Bleed era Stones, with soul music. Horns, girl backup singers, even strings- or, more often, screaming slide guitar where strings would be.

But Dulli is a saloon singer in the Sinatra tradition- he can sell out a smoky nightclub pretty much anywhere in the world on a couple days notice, and the front row will not be sweaty teenagers with caterpillars on their upper lips bouncing up and down- it will be Ladies, dressed up and swooning.

Nope, even though Dulli was on SubPop, and now does duets with Mark Lanegan, he was never grunge.

Me, I loves him. You know, ladies want to be with him, and men want to be him.
Sure, he's gotten a little wider with age, but hey, havent we all?
That New Orleans stuff, the album recorded in Sicily, the strange moody horns and voices- he mixes up the heritage of Al Green, Marvin Gaye, and Isaac Hayes, with postpunk guitars, Mick Jagger Swagger, and he never has to go all falsetto on us to get his point across.

I think 1965 is pretty much a perfect album. Not a dud on it. Every hair in place, every song tight and to the point.

Course, I also think this is a mysterious work of genius.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk7MTuovhhE&feature=related

Its impossible to pin down- its radio from mars, remixed by Fila Brazilia. Is it a song, or just atmospheric fragments?

[Ries]

Tim Fite.

there is no category for this guy.
he is not what you think he is, whatever you think he is.

Like early Zappa, or Beastie Boys, he is so smart you think he is stupid.

He aint stupid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ApqLm_7IYc&feature=related

here he is discussing the price of fame:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoeXVQ7GJd0

A lot of this stuff applies to art, as well-
"I used to think I would make it on talent, and nothing else"
why, you could just imagine that going thru Chris Burden's head...

[jOe~]

Ries, wipe that mustard off your titty!

[craigktx]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw6ZZG3UFKs&feature=channel

not as good as old punk but I wil add it.

[jOe~]

not as good as old punk but I wil add it.But as good in a different way.

[evaldart]

Yes Craig, "Creep" is a great song. So relevant. Before Radiohead got "smart". The guitar work there is monsterous and passive. A very ususual co-existence of textures. Everyone tried to copy this afterwards.

[Aaron Schroeder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvHqWciyu1E......Alcohol.

[Ries]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPRG7W7qQF0

[grommet]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMPm7iZZBuQ

[Ries]

Cant say Music Man was my favorite musical- but I LOVED Absolute Beginners-


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrVYv2b3ZQU

the entire idea of the invention of teenagers, which is what the novel, and later, the movie, is about, offers a pretty interesting way to consider pop culture in the last half of the 20th century.

But regardless, Slim Galliard is the man.

[Aaron Schroeder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2tMV96xULk



Pitbull.

[Aaron Schroeder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBvaHZIrt0o&feature=related

Royksopp.

[Ries]

Yo, White Boys with Guitars-
Your girlies are down in front, dancing to Rita Indiana.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=407y05eVhYI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWd8K-YniNk&feature=related

[jOe~]

That second one is great--love it.

[grommet]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2-EL6Pk2L0

[StevenW]

Kain't not love Robert J.

The guys used to play this around the shop a lot in San Jose and it kinda rubbed off on me..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeiZif1uXU8&feature=fvw

[obseq]

What kind of sad-looking Robert Johnson did they get for that picture???:eek:

[grommet]

better than these creepy animationshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLmlz34BUlk&feature=related

[Ries]

Arthur Russell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfzFsFT6dnA

died way too young, he was another one of those extremely influential underground musicians who influenced a thousand bands, but nobody has ever heard of him.

[Ries]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6y2St9zfQs&feature=related


Sarah Palin aint got Sh*t on Mother Jones.

[Ries]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RzBZsOeqOQ

NYC homeboy.

[Mack]

Our first grandchild born in NYC this AM...sent this song out with all the announcements of the birth..."May she (Kate) cure all the problems of this aching world. (But... only if she wants to.)" Thanks Ries. (even our musician son had never heard the song...he loved it!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RzBZsOeqOQ

[Ries]

Every song Garland Jeffries does is great.
The man is a national treasure.

[GlennT]

He has a genius for musicality and intelligent lyrics that reminds me of Sting, and a voice that sounds like a a mix of Mick Jagger and a ramped up Bill Withers.

[StevenW]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcoP8c7pNVc

just for kicks... I was splitting wood and this one popped in my head. lol

[GlennT]

And there I was, minding my own business painting a mural, when this one came into my head:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkBNPB7MWHI

[Ries]

Maybe 30 years from now, some snotty little child actor will be trying to sing parts of this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXDyUCuNCcc

But I dont think they will be much more successful than that kid on the Cosby show was.
Me, I watched Cosby for the sweaters. Cause the jokes sure weren't funny.

[Ries]

Old Farts get funky.

Dan Hicks duets with Tom Waits, and they tell you what its all about.

http://p.rhap.com/Tra.15090385

[StevenW]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APl9fRFmdC0&feature=related

:D

[Ries]

Ben Sidran.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFTbqz_6pGI&feature=more_related

I like everything he has done- from playing keyboards in the original Steve Miller band, to his cool jazz, to the tribute album he did with Van Morrison and Georgie Fame that is all Mose Allison covers.


Unfortunately, I cant find much of that one online, just this one song-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-fGkp02tI4

Ben's early 70's albums are great too- funky jazz rock with hep cat vocals and great musicians-
http://iLike.com/s/5cCjs

[Ries]

I cant believe this is already 13 years old.

The whole album is great, but this video is the best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTUIHK7gHRE

[craigktx]

Some Butthole for ya.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTJ6bxGjQu8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz6VMmEYOso&feature=related

[StevenW]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMrRdKZS4QQ&feature=related

:)

[Ries]

I have always loved the Butthole Surfers.
And Pepper is a particularly good one of theirs.

The Tokens would sound a lot better if Gibby Haynes was their lead singer, though...

[obseq]

In the spirit of Steven's Halloween thread:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUhuPn8_d0Q&feature=related

[GlennT]

Let's say that for a change of pace, you want a piece of music that helps you tune into a vibration of inner peace. This may be your go-to piece of music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWekKdoVOeo

I recommend closing your eyes and listening rather than getting distracted by the video of the performance. Better still, get the CD version sung by the Corydon singers conducted by Matthew Best.

This is what it is often like inside my head when I'm not losing it over discussions about political nonsense.

Actually, my favorite movement is the Agnus Dei, again the best version is the Best version, but that one is not on youtube, this one is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTmrXMnzYf0

[Ries]

I find my inner peace in places like this-
Music made by kids whose parents played them Butthole Surfers in vitro.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISub-86SHAE

Witch House music from the U.P. ( you know, the YOOPEE, in Michigan)

[GlennT]

Another peace offering:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNC7uWT_OH4&feature=related

[Ries]

When I was a little whippersnapper, back around 1970 or so, I had this song memorized. It was a pretty big "FM Radio" hit, back when FM Radio meant hippie music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XFYMjkFYPg

It was almost as popular as this one-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU7NEOBnMVI

pretty much everybody I knew could sing either one of these on command.

[GlennT]

O mice gosh ees you an ipppie? oya curumba, whowoodda thunkit?!

[Ries]

I wuz hippie as precocious teenager, sure- wasnt everybody?
But that was in the 60's.
Also was punk rocker- cut off all my hair and pogoed, for a couple years, til the frat boys invaded the scened and started hurling themselves at all the girls at 30mph.

The underlying thread, of course, is wierdo, and I still am one of those.

But I like those two songs because I like the talking blues format- which is a traditional african song style going back a long long time, but was "popularized" (that means introduced to White People) first by Woody Guthrie, and later by Bob Dylan in the early 60's, with his Talking New York Blues, and Talking World War 3 Blues.

I actually think its one of the antecedents of rap, which I also like.

I dont smoke the wacky tabaccy, myself, havent since maybe 74, so its not the pot aspects of these songs that appeal to me- although, even then, the pot was as much about setting yourself apart from old people, war, jobs, death, and taxes, as it was about getting high.

More hippie music-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asQwZtNJo0Q

we are forces of chaos and anarchy- everything you say we are, we are.

words I have tried to live by my whole life.

[evaldart]

There are no good words for living by. 50%thinking, 50% action is the way to go....words get in the way.

[StevenW]

So true and that is why the instrumental became so important.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GexCg_wB5Y&feature=related

[GlennT]

"What's the fella's line?" "Never worries 'bout his line"......."He's a music man!"

From the opening scene of "The Music Man"

[Ries]

If you dont like words, dont talk.

Me, I find words pretty important to my life.

but this time of night, I dig me some Burial.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1AdPdx8fPw&feature=related

no words.

[evaldart]

One is not at liberty to choose not to use words, they are part of our burden as a fearful, dependent and hopeful (hopeless?) species.

These guys are my favorite instrumentalists...they have little use for words. Here's their great version of the movie track from Halloween.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHgeTAhNXbQ

[Ries]

Words are a tool for communicating ideas.
Art is a tool for communicating ideas.
Music is a tool for communicating ideas.
Dance is a tool for communicating ideas.
Theater is a tool for communicating ideas.
Film is a tool for communicating ideas.

Words are not a "burden" anymore than steel is a "burden", or paint, or a guitar.

The IDEAS are what is important.

If you have good ideas, it doesnt matter what tool you use, and if your ideas are flat, it makes no difference how good you are at wielding the tool.

Every thread on this forum becomes the exact same argument.
In fact, we have had "the argument" at least once already on this thread.

If YOU dont like words as a tool, that is perfectly fine, dont use em. Use a welder, or a guitar, or a hammer, whatever floats your boat.

But to condemn an entire tool, really an entire family of tools, just because its not the tool YOU use- well, thats one side of the "argument".

In this corner, we have me, and Cheesepaws, Joe, and whatever innocent strangers wander in from time to time.
We are the inclusionists, who think the idea is what is important, and the medium of expression can vary.

Over there, we have Evald, and Glenn, who are of the opinion that if it aint exactly what they do, it isnt "ART", and not worth as much as "ART".
The exclusionists. The ones who define things by excluding the things they dont like.

Funny how the guy who hates words, is so attached to that one. I could care less what you call it, so I tend to cede the "high ground" of the word ART to youse guys, because, frankly, a good idea, the vision of an individual, expressed in whatever medium, be it words, music, or bronze, is equally interesting to me, and I dont care what you call it.
Evald, you are always lecturing us on what is, and isnt, "ART". As if the word was so important, and had so much meaning.
But isnt it a burden, like all other words?

I like songs with no words.
I like songs with words.

They are different.

I posted those two talking blues, and, in both of em, the "music" is so secondary as to be almost irrelevant. The POINT of those two songs is the words. The words are the medium.

To exclude words is like excluding the color red, or steel, or the saxophone.

The words can be great, or puerile, depending on the brain behind them.

As it happens, words are something I do live by. And think about, every day. I read a lot, and I learn a lot by reading, and by writing. Probably half of my artwork utilizes words, right on the sculpture, or paint, or textile. And my artwork would be completely different, and much less interesting to me, if it did not include words.

Which is not to say YOU have to like words, or use em.

I got some silver tape you can borrow, I can tear you off a piece that would fit right over your mouth, if you want.... :D

More Burial- a guy who disdains words, and trys, he says, to make music that sounds like automatic weapons being disassembled and put back together.
He does use the human voice, other peoples voices, as instruments, but he doesnt use musical instruments- the music is assembled from ideas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni7NoQXq13k&feature=related

[evaldart]

No, art is not a tool for communicating ideas. Not a tool at all, like words are.

Yet it turns out that art is actually a better (unintended) communicator than anything - by its analog rather than digitized nature.

The problem with "inclusionists" is that they lack discretion. There is a fog of universal acceptance dispersing your consideration. Makes it tough to weed-out the pertinence from the mush. As a consciousness progresses it discards, it does not accumulate.

I wouldnt say that Cheese and you and Joe belong at all in any category together. Shockingly different - all three. And I dont suppose they'd fancy that label. But then, an inclusionist is not apt to notice such.

And at last, the "point" of all that music you like that you think is word-driven - well, thats simply another misreading of the art. The "poetry" or the language ot the narrative is actually quite secondary to the voice as it is being used as another instrument - as a percussive force, a contributor to the rhythm; tambor, physicality and delivery is MUCH more important to the art (the music) than the words. If you like the funny (or sad) stories...fine, but the music is "communicating to you by other sonic priorities.

One quite "feels" music much more readily than one deciphers it.

Thats all.


But I DO like it Ries when you talk long. Talking short is such a cop-out. So I commend you.:D

[GlennT]

Ries, your claim here:

Over there, we have Evald, and Glenn, who are of the opinion that if it aint exactly what they do, it isnt "ART", and not worth as much as "ART".
The exclusionists. The ones who define things by excluding the things they dont like.


Is ridiculous. It neither describes evaldart or myself. evaldart is more prone than I to dismiss things as not being art, but even there it has nothing to do with whether it is "exactly what he does". As for me, I could list dozens of things that I consider art that have nothing to do with what I do. But there is really no point in defending that ridiculous position anyways. Offer proof if you have it, but don't waste your time because you will not find any.

I define things by what they are, not by exluding. That just sounds like mumbo jumbo from your pre 1974 days. I'm certainly not afraid to point out when the emperor has no clothes on occaision, or to have likes and dislikes, and opinions. So what?

My music man quote, by the way, was for the fun of it, not because I have an opinion about words versus music. Just a bit of light-hearted fun.

[grommet]

just more proof that women are not the only ones who are prone to PMS.






mood change
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwmuiq4oMYc

[Ries]

Evald, how can you possibly KNOW that I am wrong, and you are right-
How can you KNOW that I am "misreading", or that the words are secondary-
or that "one" cannot decipher lyrics?

You are extrapolating what happens in YOUR brain into mine.

And my brain aint yours.

I am not "misreading" anything- I am experiencing exactly what I experience.
And sometimes, I certainly "feel" music.

But other times, no matter how YOU feel about it, I listen to the WORDS, perceive the meaning of those words, and the MEANING is more important than the sound.

TO ME.

Nobody says you have to feel that way.
But you appear to be telling me I have to feel your way.
I dont.
I never have.

And ART, most definitely, is a tool.
The idea reigns supreme, and the Art is merely a way of conveying it.
ART, without ideas, is completely empty.

How the heck do you claim to own "pertinence"?
Pertinence is as shifting a target as you can possibly create.
What is "pertinent" to me, is often completely uninteresting to you, and vice versa.
There is no universal pertinence, or a universal mush.

A lot of what you consider to be pertinent, I will walk right by without even looking.

You are proposing a classicly solipsist view of the world- which is cute, and appropriate for 18 year olds who have just read a lot of Ayn Rand, but it dont hold up among adults in the real world.
No matter how long and hard you make your pronouncements, everybody else is free to cover their ears, and do a PeeWee Herman "NahNahNahNah I Cant Hear You".
Or, more likely, discuss Art, and Music, and Culture, in words, and come up with a wide variety of opinions.

[StevenW]

That same line but, Chomsky..

Anyway, we needn't get bogged down with pertinence and song du jour's. More aptly titled, Music Du Jour for purist's. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVtdYKVXYhI

There's just something so overtly dorkey about the early 70's.. Gotta love it.

[grommet]

kaki king
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlwvE9p47oQ

[evaldart]

I've never read Ann Rand. But I've read too many others. I'm talking short...copping out. Hah.

[GlennT]

grommet, that Kaki King was a good one!

Her technique with the left hand may be what I've been looking for to break the befuddled barrier when it comes to playing the guitar. From playing piano and harp, the underneath the neck wrist twist that everyone else uses does not feel natural. Never even thought of trying it her way. Can this ol' dog learn a new trick?

[evaldart]

Some killer hippie boogi. pure Les paul destruction at 48 seconds.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7hbworRWUg&feature=related

[Ries]

Detroits Finest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4APzyNUZ-uE&feature=related

[GlennT]

Picking up on an assertion from another thread....speaking of liking something from a genre (disco) that in general I could hardly stand at the time (aside from "Staying Alive") or yet today, here is a song that I liked the first time I heard it over the radio at night driving somewhere probably in "77 or '78, and forgot about until youtube made memory access more immediate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhvstN_8ckM

Is this something that requires therapy, an exorcism, or just good dancing shoes?

[craigktx]

Picking up on an assertion from another thread....speaking of liking something from a genre (disco) that in general I could hardly stand at the time (aside from "Staying Alive") or yet today, here is a song that I liked the first time I heard it over the radio at night driving somewhere probably in "77 or '78, and forgot about until youtube made memory access more immediate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhvstN_8ckM

Is this something that requires therapy, an exorcism, or just good dancing shoes?

Here is some therapy.:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97RjuC9YeXg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhUkGIsKvn0

[GlennT]

[QUOTE=craigktx;95070]Here is some therapy.:D

That's not therapy, its an overdose!

[craigktx]

[QUOTE=craigktx;95070]Here is some therapy.:D

That's not therapy, its an overdose!

Heres a downer then.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YH5MEyNuIM&feature=related

[Aaron Schroeder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j7huh5Egew

[Aaron Schroeder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV933OlROQE

[GlennT]

Here's some therapy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So93Iny2HWI&ob=av2e

[craigktx]

Here's some therapy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So93Iny2HWI&ob=av2e

Nothing wrong with the song but a hoping guy in a white suite, now I want to poke my eyes out.:eek:

I guess that was to much happiness for me.

[Ries]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJWldNdG4Lo

its music.
its art.

and you can sit on it.

at night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRgQzIdVi8M&feature=related

I like this one, too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B0hGyKV9qs&feature=related

[evaldart]

When I was 13 I discovered Johnny Guitar Watson on the am radio.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hISQVPFhOfE

[jOe~]

ART IS HARD


The music :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wix_6ZGpiU0

the lyrics:http://www.plyrics.com/lyrics/cursive/artishard.html

[Ries]

I am sure all they are saying is "bitches and hos" but it sounds so much better in french...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiznnwPziVo

[Ries]

Martin Buscaglia- the Devandra Barnhardt of Uruguay.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rpbM1X_2vg&feature=related

[Ries]

Muchachito.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZJHqSI5U4M&feature=player_embedded#!

[evaldart]

check out Warpaint. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOFxb0F2F2A&feature=player_embedded#!

[Ries]

Me gusto mucho Pantha du Prince.

I think he's German.

But I am in Buenos Aires, so he could be from Mars...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-gyMMyscWs&feature=related

[Aaron Schroeder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkymJsrUkt0

The Duke Spirit. The Step and the Walk.

[Aaron Schroeder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxjSQOPVZhc&feature=related

Boris.......Farewell.

[obseq]

because I've had this on repeat:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K6iCoKUBD8

..and because Sonny Terry's on harp.

[StevenW]

For all my lib friends..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgw_RD_1_5I&feature=related

:)

[evaldart]

Industrial metal!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tocZzu4bVLo&feature=related

[Ries]

for all my teabaggin friends, especially those who liked Christine O'Donnell, Sharon Angle, Ken Buck, Dino Rossi, Linda McMahon, Carly Fiorina, Joe Miller,Carl Paladino, Chris Dudley, and a bunch more tea swigging guys and gals.
Must be what Glenn was calling a "National Awakening", eh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq7xyjU-jsU


there are plenty enough funerals to go around...

[GlennT]

Uh Oh. Now this thread is headed towarde the dreaded...getting politcal!
My advice: Stay cool!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYDqCSTospY&feature=related

[Mack]

Elton Britt, the great yodeler singing it straight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzUwTtSJS5Y&feature=related

and singing this great Jimmie Hodges song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GEao9cpwI8&feature=related

[Ries]

I saw this band last night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvzzFG1HAII&feature=related

they were amazing- full band was 12 people, including two violins and 3 horns.



anyway- its not politics to trade "honorifics"- its music- as demonstrated by this classic song-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzTvsZw1iAs&feature=related

so anyway, dont call me lib, teahadist.

(whatever a "lib" is- me, I am democratic socialist/anarchist, and I aint no liberal, and I sure dont drive a subaru or a volvo)

[evaldart]

Damned good music Ries. But they didnt need the horn playing or the slide show at all. Those songs were less because of that stuff. They'll learn.

[Mack]

This song first came out in 1951. It was a big hit and a shocker. "It was very unique for a "white guy" to express himself so emotionally.
He could be argueabily the first white "soul singer". He set the stage for Elvis, Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis etc; etc."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIhIa72cUXY&feature=relate:cool:

[Ries]

Business in the front, party in the back.
The Mullet never goes out of style.

Critters Buggin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o39FYJzDnaM

[Mack]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KrFanNOmwM

[grommet]

Mack, that looks kind of like "pop" music. Fun.:)

[Ries]

Jah Wobble and Bill Laswell.
so much bass that guitar is not needed.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWIz2hcAPc4

[Ries]

There is a great line in the original Planet of the Apes movie- the Charleton Heston character says- "I leave the 20th Century with no regrets".

Here is a musical interpretation of that line.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCWGogfV5lk

Brought to mind by the media inundation I have gotten in the last two weeks of our former Great Leader, and his new book, in which his only regrets seem to be letting a couple of unflattering pictures be taken of him.

No Regrets.

[evaldart]

Some recent compositions by my bro (he plays everything). Eno and Reich damaged for sure. No images....just wait for the track to load on the white screen.

http://danesounds.com/toomanyfrets/19_tone_loop_112010.mp3

http://danesounds.com/toomanyfrets/19_tone_loop_112010.mp3

[jOe~]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viONc_LDZxw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUWWtojwEl0&feature=relatedBest concert I ever heard.

[grommet]

E- enjoyed your brother's stuff, quite a painter.

[Mack]

This did the job in 1954...2 months #1 on the R&B charts. Great voice.We all knew the song but this was a new sound.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQze9nTh-qo&feature=related

[Ries]

Sandy Bull

The 1963 version of Matt's brother.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3HuHV00DMI

still have the scratchy vinyl of two of his albums, somewhere...

[evaldart]

Sandy Bull

The 1963 version of Matt's brother.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3HuHV00DMI

still have the scratchy vinyl of two of his albums, somewhere...

Thanks Ries, I sent this to D...not sure if he's familiar with it. I wasnt. Very cool.

[evaldart]

my favorite chicken-picker. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRLc2O1xtYk

[Ries]

my favorite chicken picker.

also dead, and who died without his leg.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYCG5wZ9op8

unfortunately, Lucinda Williams has not written a great song about him yet, but maybe she will.

[sculptor]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS870zCCAwM

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grrzX_B368Y&feature=related

[Ries]

Amazing- the very concept of a drag queen doing Marie Osmond as Patty Smyth is mindboggling.

If I want cute girls, though, doing some retro moves, I like this one-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhaRkWfaq10&feature=player_embedded

[evaldart]

It takes nerve to cover this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA3CpQs9wPs&feature=related

[Mack]

Ernest Tubb: one of the great Country voices of the 40's- 50's:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XouPXFgrhi0&NR=1

[Mack]

My Mother's favorite tune by the R&B pioneers:the Ink Spots.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvwfLe6sLis&feature=related

[evaldart]

I've got that on vinyl Mack, record was my dad's...indeed a classic.

[Mack]

E: I'm glad that you've heard them and your dad had good taste. I grew up loving the sound of this group also but until today never saw them sing!
The Mills Brothers :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPdidRreduM&feature=related

[Ries]

My favorite chicken picker-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWsNbk7TrKE

I first saw Baby Gramps in about 1970.
He looked and sounded just like he does today.
I think he will be 200 next year.

[evaldart]

Ries, Thats a nice geetar he's got there and quite a good growly voice but he aint doin any pickin at all...let alone CHICKEN pickin'. Just banging and strumming (thats mostly what I do too).

[Ries]

the chicken cant tell the difference.

[GlennT]

Just banging and strumming (thats mostly what I do too).

You play guitar like you sculpt?:D

[evaldart]

You play guitar like you sculpt?:D

Oh Yes I do!

[Ries]

my favorite chicken plucker

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sUPXyHpRQo

I love anything Howe does- but this new band, with him overlaying his cowboy schtick over flamenco guitarists from spain is pretty great.

[craigktx]

My favorite chicken picker-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWsNbk7TrKE

I first saw Baby Gramps in about 1970.
He looked and sounded just like he does today.
I think he will be 200 next year.

I think he ate to much dirt, now my ears are bleeding again.
Pure pain:eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueZ6tvqhk8U&feature=related

[Ries]

Since you liked Baby Gramps so much, you gonna love this one-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLdRh7qdi_g&feature=related

The original, and still the greatest.

[evaldart]

LOVE that Beefheart, yes.

But I heard he became a painter...now thats a damned shame. That man was BORN to funk and growl.

[Ries]

Deconstructing Country Music, Part 1-

Country never really claimed him- something about being a long haired pot smoker, at the wrong time- its OK today.

But he was country, in the real sense of the word.

Plus, he had the best sideburns in the world.

The Late, Great, Doug Sahm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY0fesM41t4&feature=related

[Ries]

Deconstructing Country Music, Part 2-

Kinky.
The State of Texas made a grave mistake choosing good hair over brains and wit.

When Kinky was told it was politically incorrect (not to mention illegal) to smoke Cuban Cigars, he said, "I'm not supporting their economy- I'm burning their fields".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESNCWrks6vQ

If none of Kinky's songs offend you, you probably need a hearing aid.

Saw him live once, at the peak of his powers, in the early 70's, with the original Texas Jewboys. Sheepskin chaps, ten gallon hat, dark glasses and a cigar holder on the mike stand.

[Ries]

Deconstructing Country Music, Part 3-

Marshall Chapman.

A real country singer who makes her living selling songs to fake country singers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsiP95yZueI&feature=related

Almost none of her good stuff is online, unless you buy it.

Why Cant I Be Like Other Girls is amazing.

Her cover version of Turn the Page, by Bob Seger, is better than Bob's.
She nails I Walk the Line.

She did a live album in a Womens Prison.

[Ries]

Deconstructing Country Music, Part 4-

Rank and File.

Maoist punk band the Dils, one of the most influential first wave west coast punk bands, bought big hats in about 1982 and invented cowpunk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRI07A5aT6U

and they are still at it today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eDMGY27N9s&feature=related

[Ries]

Deconstructing Country Music, Part 5-

Howe Gelb.

Howe can call up just about anybody, and they will come and record with him.

Here, he duets with Nico Case, but he has done songs with Lucinda Williams, Cat Power, PJ Harvey, Mark Lanegan, and many more.

He is a Jewish boy from Pennsylvania, who spends a lot of time in Denmark.
As country as you can get.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1PNSwhtpEc

[Ries]

Deconstructing Country Music, Part 6-

Lowell George.

The story, probably apocryphal, is that Frank Zappa kicked him out of the Mothers for writing this song. But then called him back to play guitar on Hot Rats.

Anyway, its a classic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-71e-nV_fY&feature=related

[Ries]

Deconstructing Country Music, Part 7-

The Flying Burrito Brothers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCqxq6xqoXI

In the twenties, Country Music was the Punk Rock of its time- DIY, alternative, home made non-commercial music of the disaffected.
But by the late 60's, it was bloated, soul-less, and hollow.

I am old enough that I watched Hee-Haw when it first came on- and the country music on that show had more to do with Dean Martin than Hank Williams.
Like these guys, I was much more interested in watching the Porter Wagoner show, as much for Norma Jean and the Nudie's Suits, as for the music.
When Dolly Parton became a regular, I tuned out.

Gram Parsons and the Burrito Brothers, however, took Porter Wagoner and Slim Whitman to heart, and got themselves up to Nudies in North Hollywood to get some of those embroidered and sequined suits, and made some amazing music.

[Mack]

Some familiar and some never seen..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2U7gxhDoW0&feature=related

[evaldart]

It takes alotta nerve. But nothing good ever happens without nerve.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUMSNTmdcbo&feature=player_embedded

[Ries]

I seen that band play- they werent very good.

(The Beatles, that is- not the Wedding Present-1965 or so, Seattle Coliseum. Lots of screaming girls, flashbulbs from cameras, and a perfunctory run thru of ordinary sounding pop songs.)

I much prefer this band from 1968.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JF13Fy9OiY

[evaldart]

Okay Ries, so you're projecting how unimpressed you are with the Beatles, which is not unlike your projected revulsion of Disneyland, and at the same time projecting a very solitary ability to recognize genius in so many barely google-able bands and musicians from all over the world. Are we all to suppose that you are so vastly eclectic? I'm impressed.

I always thought , like everyone else, that the Beatles were the greatest rock band ever (or maybe AC/DC in a close second).:D