Photoes of 1000 statues

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Artists
I am making 1000 statues of worldfamous personalities on stone for GIFT TO NATION( my country, Nepal). I am going to show all those photoes one by one regularly with their short biography.
Today I am posting the photo of Leonardo De Vinci. I think it is not neccessary to discribe about Vinci for all the artists. so I pasted only his photo.
Thank
Manjul Miteri
Nepal

[Merlion]

Manjul,

You said, 'gift to nation'. Can you explain in more detail what do you mean by this.

Are your portraint busts life-size ? And what stone are they carved from ?

[Cantab]

I like the work - some nice stylisations. But, question: why are you spreading this item around on so many threads?

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear sirs
Thanks for seeing my art and your advices. First of all I am going to discribe My 1000 statues. I have an Iron Dream -giving 1000 statues of worldfamous presonalities to my Nation NEPAL. I am working regularly for it. I have finist 50 statues of those in the last one year. I think it will take my 15 years. Sometimes many circumstances disturbe me and it even goes to late, But I am taking them as a power to success. Last January, I exhibited these statues. All people are inspiering me knowing my aim, they are helping me as their possibilities.
I think the Nation also watching it. Some Univrsities and other Forums are asking me to help strongly for stablishing those statues Museum belonging them but I think it is not better than Natoin. I am only 25 years old, I can finish it in my life anyhow but they want to take advantage by it, I don't like. I am going to give these 50 statues in this running year and it will going on every year to Nation.
My potraites are carved on local stone. The stones are not good in quality although I have to make on it because the qualited stones are not avilable here and they are expensive too. My poverty can not servive it.
My potraits are (18"x15") in size.They are in half sized.
Oh, Ofcourse, I used many Threads to post my pictures because I was confused which Thread is for it.
I am posting my another potrate of Madam Currie. She is a great scientist, born in Poland, Discovered Radium.
Your sugesstions always make me pleasure and stronger.
Thank
Manjul Miteri
NEPAL

[Miteri,Manjul]

Hi all
I am sending another photoe of my carving. this is the statue of Karl Marx,Born in Geermany(1818-1883),Father of Dialectial Materialism:Marxism.

[HappySculpting]

The attached photos will not enlarge when I click on them. It would be nice to see the carvings closer in order to examine the detail.

Thx,

[Thatch]

Manjul,
Thank you for sharing. It is great for you to take the time to post photos of your work, no matter the size. Hopefully your nation of Nepal will recognize your gift and do what is correct for your work and Nepal. I see your enterprise as a great learning tool for generations to come not only for the art work but also why you choose the people that you do portraits of.

Thatch

[G. Murdoch]

Manjul,

What an enormous goal you have set for yourself. I admire your work, and the reasons you are doing it. Keep going!

Graham

[Merlion]

Manjul,

Did you say earlier, to help with your future carvings, you are looking for good photos/pictures of other famous personalities?

From the WWW of the Internet, there are two good Search Engines to find these photos/pictures, as long as you know of the names of these people and type them in.

One Search Engine is Fickr (http://www.villagevoice.com/art/0642,saltz,74717,13.html). The other is Google Images (http://www.google.com.sg/imghp?hl=en&tab=wi&q=). Try them.

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear
Merlion, HappySculpting, Thatch, G. Murdoch
I am very happy for your inspiration. I tried to post the photoes in large sizes but it took more time to attache. so I am posting these photoes in small sizes. I am sorry for the small sized photoes.
Thanks for sugesstion in searching worldfamous persons' photoes.
My new HappyNews is that I finist another potraite of Orvile Right. Today I am posting the photo of Albert Einstein, The Greatest Scintist. I think it is not need to explane about him, so I am posting only his photo.
Thank
Manjul Miteri
Nepal

[Puzzle]

Manjul,

Your goal and enthusiasm are very inspiring!

I recently came across the website of a guy in San Francisco that runs his own foundation for the arts. He apparently earns his living as a waiter and provides small grants to artists, which he funds with the proceeds of one nights tips per month (up to $300 per project). It occurred to me that his mission and yours may be compatible.

Here is the web link in case you are interested:

http://web.mac.com/serviceworks/iWeb/Site/Service-Works.html

Best of luck with your endeavor.

Chuck

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Chuck and all artists,
Again you added in me the brave to my goal, thanks for it. Somepeople are sacrifeing thir whole lifetime for this planet. You told about the guy of San Fransisco. I looked his website too, really, he is a great son of this planet. he is great, wonderful. Thank for giving me his website. Oh, onething, can you help me givimg me the photoes and biography of worldfamous personalities?
ok, now, I am posting another photo of my carving. It is the potrate oh Jean Hennary Deunant, founder of Redcross,born in Switzerland.
Your sugesstions and writing for me is my pleasure and regulation.
Thank
Manjul Miteri
Nepal

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Artists,
Very late I am posting another photo of my carving. It is the portraite of Pasang Lhamu Sherpa(Nepal). She is the first Nepealese woman to climb the Mt. Everest. She was died in mountain sliding.
today I want to share my happyness with you because I just finist the portraite of Wilver Wright,who made the first aeroplane with his brother Orvile Wright. I will post others' photose regularly, stay always near to me,Your intantion is my pleaser and power.
Thank
Manjul Miteri
Nepal

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear artists,
I am posting today the potraite of Ravindra Nath Tagore,A great Indian writer,prized by Nobel prize for literature. your concern is my inspiration,your encouragement is my power.
Thank
Manjul Miteri
Nepal

[HappySculpting]

I really like this last portrait of Ravindra. I don't know what he looks like in real life but your portrait has found a nice expression in his eyes. Some good hair modeling in his beard too. Very nice. It seems that with each portrait you are getting better and better. I do think that by the time you are done with the 1000 portraits, you will have done something that will etch you a spot in history too. Good for you!

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Tamara and all the Artists,
Thank you, I am making their statues as my possibility. Ravindra Nath Tagore was a great Indian writer. He was fond to roaming the reverside, forest and watching the blue sky leaving his class, study. He loved the natural beauty. I tried to make his portrait as his photo and his charactor, my neiboures liked it is near to real photo. I always try to the best. Today I am posting the portrait of Socrates, A great Greek philosopher who was killed for his against view for god and religion. He was sacrified for the truth. Ok, It will bee keeping on. your concern is my inspiration, your encouragement is my power.
Thank
Manjul Miteri
Nepal

[Merlion]

I agree I like the portrait of Ravindra Tagore best.

Also, Manjul, I notice the lighting of most of your photos can be improved. Move your lighting source around and look at the shadows. Find a good position before taking the photos. Usually it is above the head and only slightly in front.

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Merlion and the Artists,
Ofcourse, the manegement of light on my portraits is poor. I have stored them in a small, dark and dirty room because I am not able to manege a especial hall for them so I use to take their photose in a simple mode. But I hope they will get suficient hall for them at last. Ok, today I am posting here a different typy of photo. That is the photo of myself not the photo of portrait. That's all. your concern is my inspiration, your encouragement is my power.
Thank
Manjul Miteri
Nepal

[HappySculpting]

Nice picture Manjul. You are so young and taking on such a life commitment; I respect that and cheer you on.

To see your sculpt closer and with better lighting is what we want because you've captured our interest and we want to see more. If you upload your pictures into photobucket.com and then paste the url into the text,(what you write), then we should be able to see a much bigger picture. Even if the lighting of the picture isn't that good, we'll see more because it's bigger.

Keep sharing, as it's exciting to see who you do next. What about Mother Therese?

~Tamara

[Merlion]

Instead of taking the photos inside your room, try taking them outdoor with sunlight from above. Of couse place your carvings in front of a plane wall so the background is plane and does not distract.

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Tamara, Merlion and all the artists,
Thank you for your suggestion. Ofcourse, I am still young, thanks for your encouragement. I will manege the light by sonray because it is the possible for me. Oh, you asked Mother Teresa, yes I posted that but I have made this in my starting so it looks not same, I am remaking it. Iwill be posting photose of their. Keep it going on,your concern is my inspiration, your encouragement is my power.
Thank
Manjul Miteri
Nepal

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Artists,
Very late I am posting another photo of my carving. It is the portrait of Orvile Wright who made the fiest aeroplane with his brother Wilver Wright. I am happy today because I bought a dg camera . I used to roaming how to take the photose of my art. But, at last I did it and Ican take those photose as my view, although it is not more powerfull. It is the photo taken by my own camera, how it looks? Write. Keep it going on,your concern is my inspiration, your encouragement is my power.
Thank
Manjul Miteri
Nepal

[lyhoa]

Dear Manjul,
What a nice porrait. I excited seeing this last posted photo. oh, I am also happy for your ne camera. It looks clear than previous photose. We are always be waiting to see your new photose of your carving. you took a great Dream, you should struggle as hard as your dream. Keep it on.
Lyhoa

[Teju]

Dear Manjul,
What a enourmouse goal. I like it, keep it continue to make the statues not only posting the photose. I hope you will post the new photoes regularly.
Teju
Kathmandu

[GlennT]

Dear Manjul:

It looks like you keep getting better as you go. the Orville Wright and the Ravindra Nath Tagore are the most lifelike so far. Not only are you chiiping away stone, you are also chipping away previous limitations. You are living the dream, and Nepal is blessed to have the fruit of your efforts.
Keep up the good work!

GlennT

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Artists,
Thank you for your concern. I will appeare soon with my photo of my new portrait. keep the dilouge on. your concern is my inspiration, your encouragement is my power.
Thank
Manjul Miteri
Nepal

[Merlion]

Manjul. I looked at the four photos of your Orvile Wright portrait carving. I think the photo lighting makes a lot of difference to the effect. The left hand one with a red background looks flat without much details, but not the ones on the right.

I think your earlier portraits will also look good if you retake the photos with good lighting. They are good carving works. Keep it up.

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Merlion, GlennT and all the artists,
Thanks for your view. I will take the photose of the posted portraits because they were lookig uncleare. I am arranging how to show my portraits cleare to my artists. I will try to post the more clear photose. I will appeare soon with new photo. Keep it going on. your concern is my inspiration, your encouragement is my power.
Thank
Manjul Miteri
Nepal

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Artists,
I took the photose of those portraits which I were sent here already. They went seeing more clear than posted photose. I tried to arrange the light. It effected more and lokked as clear. today I am posting the photose of a great scientist Michaele Farade. Keep it going on. your concern is my inspiration, your encouragement is my power.
Thank
Manjul Miteri
Nepal

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Aritsts,
Mistakely I was posted very small photose so again I [posting some large photo of same Michaele Farade. Keep it going on. your concern is my inspiration, your encouragement is my power.
Thank
Manjul Miteri
Nepal

[Miteri,Manjul]

rest photose of Michaele Farade1 and 2.
Thank
Manjul Miteri
Nepal

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Artists,
I took the new photose of my all portraits. It took more time although I did it. Today I am [pposting the photose of a ggreat Greek philosopher 'Aristotle'. He was a zoologist and thinker. And, I near to complete the portrait of Nicoles copernicous, a great scientist who discovered that plannets move around the Sun. Ok, I will apeare again with my new photoes. Keep it going on. your concern is my inspiration, your encouragement is my power.
Thank
Manjul Miteri
Nepal

[HappySculpting]

Hi Manjul (Is that your first name?)

These close up pics show a lot more detail, thanks :-) Perhaps some side view pics would be nice too. I'd enjoy seeing the profile too.

It's great to see what you do with carving stone. It's not like you can make a mistake and then put the stone back. You do very well with it.

One thing I was noticing is that the scalp looks perhaps to be a little bit lacking. The eyes are often the midline of the face when measured from the top of the scalp to the bottom of the chin. It's hard to tell with the beard on, but it looks like he could have a little bit more scalp. Just something to keep in mind.

Look forward to the next one....

~Tamara

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Tamara and all the artists,
Yes I am manjul.
I respectly agree that my portraits have some lack of the measurement. I have done some mistakes. To be happened so, first, I am only a student of art and just learning the art. second, I have the problem of sufficient photose. Even I use very small and unclear photose for carving which don't support for measurement. I will do the coming next very carefully. Yes, I think, making portraits on clay is easier than stone. It may take 3 or 4 days, other side, I usually coplete my stone portrait in same time. So it is best to carving on stone direct. Although your sugesstion is greatfull. Accepting youe suggestion, I have posted next photo of my carving. It is the portrait of Pelle. Pelle is the Legend of Football. He is a great Brazilian football player. I think, It is not to describe you about Pelle. But, I often remember a diolouge of Pelle that he was very very happy when he was celebrating his 1000 goal durring the his international tournaments. Innumerable greeting and whising letter were on front of him. He wept deeply in that last night when he read a letter written by a blure fan. It was written that I never saw your game and your all that 999 goals allthough I wish you to success your 1000 goal because I am blind. Often, I become sad remembering this. Ok, I will apeare again with my new photoes. Keep it going on. your concern is my inspiration, your encouragement is my power.
Thank
Manjul Miteri
Nepal

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Artists,
Today Iamposting the photose of a ggreat scientist Thomasellwa Addition.
Thank
Manjul
Nepal

[Thatch]

Manjul,
Do you have a lot of basic blanks of busts ready to go, or do you do every one start to finish, one at a time?

Thatch

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Thacht and all the artists,
Veery late I opened this site because I was busy for an exhibition. It is taking more time to arrange. No, I have not enough busts to make them. I use to coollect the blank stones from a stream named 'Mikluck' whish is 20 km fsr from here. there is my farmhouse also. I use to go there and collect 10-20 stones and bring here. When I finish them again I go there to search. I usually carve them in order their group such as Writer, Scientists, Philosopher and etc. Now I am near to finish the portraits of scientists. Only one is rested. I will finish it soon. I just finist the portraits of Niicoles Copernicus and Edward Jenner. The rested one is Rudyard Keepling. I will show them soon. Now I posting my photose on grouping. Ok, I will apeare again with my new photoes. Keep it going on. your concern is my inspiration, your encouragement is my power.
Thank
Manjul Miteri
Nepal

[Cantab]

Wow! What a project! You refer to yourself as a student, but I like the fact that you have already developed a style that suits what you are doing.

[GlennT]

Manjul:

You are an amazing individual! I hope that someone films a documentary of what you are doing, as the scope of the project and your dedication and consistant hard work would prove an inspiration to many.

GlennT

[Merlion]

Manjul. You do deserve high praise for your artistic skill and your determination to achive your ambitious and noble aim in spite of difficult conditions. Good luck to your exhibition, and tell us about it afterwards.

By the way, perhaps coincidentally a married artist couple in Vietnam seem to have strikingly similar vision to what you are pursuing. I understand there is a desire to know more about the key historic people who have shaped our world, and to express our gratitude to them through our portrait artworks.

When you have time you can read about this write-up below about the exhibition they're holding. There is a photo there.

Exhibition salutes famous figures (http://vietnamnews.vnagency.com.vn/showarticle.php?num=01ART171106)

Over 100 sculptures of famous personalities by a husband and wife team of former teachers are on display in HCM [Ho Chi Minh, previously Saigon] City.

Titled On Thay (Showing Gratitude to Teachers) the works – to celebrate Teachers’ Day, November 20 – by Nguyen Sang and Kim Thanh feature national heroes, outstanding scholars, poets, writers and other personalities who made a contribution to society or culture.

The amateur artists have used bronze, stone, and gypsum to cast their works.

They read many books and documents featuring the life and work of the famous people they wanted to sculpt, in the process learning about the historical and cultural events that shaped the world. ....

[obseq]

Hi, Manjul,

I enjoyed the images in your latest update--
Certainly a new perspective!

Has the press in Nepal keyed in on your work?

[dilida]

Manjul,

I really liked the picture of you on the steps with all busts, this is such an exciting project. You say others' concern is your inspiration, and in return, you are an inspiration to me, and others I'm sure. There seems to be a purity and innocence in this project that is very refreshing and like I said, inspiring. Have you considered "inventors" as a group? And peaceful religious leaders? Ghandi, Martin Luther King, ect.?

Keep up the good work,

lisa

[cmustard]

Manjul,

Great story about Pelle, the kind of thing that stops one in his tracks. Keep them coming!

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Artists
Cantab, Realy I am a student of Art. I think I never be a master of art. when I finish a part of knowledge of art, again there appeares another to learn. although I always try to do the best one.
GlennT, thank for your encouragement. I think it would be better taking it in documentary as memory. It will be happen.
Dear Merlion, I watched the website which you gave me. It seems similar to me but they are making in different matterials, small sized. It would be better in life sized.
Obseq, I think my Nepal is wathing to my dream although I have not any supported still by my Country. But the people of Nepal, every newspaper and every electronic media are supporting for media. I am enough happy for it.
Dear Lisa, Ofcourse, I am making the portraits of Enventors, Piece religious leaders. I have already finist the portrait of Ghandi. Mrtin Luther King is rested to make. It's real that your concern makes me always work hard for my dream.
Cmustard, thank for your writing to me.
Today, I am posting the photose of Archemedes. He is the myrter of the Science.Ok, I will apeare again with my new photoes. Keep it going on. your concern is my inspiration, your encouragement is my power.
Thank
Manjul Miteri
Nepal

[jOe~]

your encouragement is my power. Your power is what I encourage. Bravo!
jOe~

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Artists,
It is happening my exhibition. so I am not posting any photose of portraits. Just regards for all. Ok, I will apeare again with my new photoes. Keep it going on. your concern is my inspiration, your encouragement is my power.
Thank
Manjul Miteri
Nepal

[cooljamesx1]

hey there I really like your portaits. It is interesting to see who you consider are the most important people in history. you do great work, and fast, too!

-james

[Merlion]

Miteri. What exhibition have you been taking part in? It is not this one is it?

Peace icons in the show (http://www.nepalnews.com/archive/2006/others/feature/nov/news_feature04.php)

A day after the government and the Maoists signed the deal to begin the process of establishing permanent peace in the country; a pictorial biography exhibition began in Nepal Art Council galley on the theme 'the power of one'.

The exhibition portrays the important events in the life of three prominent peace icons – Mahatma Gandhi of India, Martin Luther King Jr of the US and Daisaku Ikeda of Japan. ....

The exhibition is the exclusive show of the works by these three world leaders, hurdles and challenges they faced, and changes they finally brought in for all's welfare.

The organisers attempt to exhibit the diversity of these leaders' achievements makes it easier for the visitors to quickly know what the person did to achieve what they did. However, low quality pictures, photos dominated by texts and less information of their contribution to mankind make the exhibition not too impressive to carry its value in the present context of Nepal.

The exhibition runs through November 9 to 19.

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear cooljamesx1, Merlion and all the Artist,
Yes I am working as possible as fast ans hard to succeed my dream. The exhibition of three leaders porraits is happening in Kathmandu. My exhibition is happening in different place. It is 500kms far from Kathmandu. It's being best. I am very happy for the responce of the people towards me. Today I am posting the photose of a great scientist Alfred Nobel. He is the founder of Nobel Prize. Ok, Keep it going on. your concern is my inspiration, your encouragement is my power.
Thank
Manjul Miteri
Nepal

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Artists,
I just celebrated the Exhibition. It made me glad and satisfied. The responce of everypeople was possitive. It added more power in me. Again I am starting to keep my work continue. Now, it is the turn for the Philosopher and Political Leaders. Ok, I will apeare again with my new photoes. Keep it going on. your concern is my inspiration, your encouragement is my power.
Thank
Manjul
Nepal

[cooljamesx1]

I really like the last sculpture you posted. I think your work is getting better and better. keep up the good work.

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Artists,
I am very very sorry for late to giving information and my photose. Yes I am just resting from that exhibition but I am again busy for my a new opened school- VINCI SCHOOL. Today I am posting another photo of the portraits of Karl Marx. Ok, I will apeare again with my new photoes. Keep it going on. your concern is my inspiration, your encouragement is my power.
Thank
Manjul
Nepal

[MountainSong]

1000 bust – what a remarkable and large scope project you have taken on! I’m watching your progress with interest and with much encouragement for your continued ambition and determination. It really is remarkable to watch.

[krismusic]

To say that this work is impressive seems an understatement!

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Artists,
It's great for me your concern to my work and dream. I am working and working collecting all yours support as you give. Keep the dialouge on, it makes me more inspired and encoraged. Ok, I will apeare again with my new photoes. Keep it going on. your concern is my inspiration, your encouragement is my power.
Thank
Manjul
Nepal

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Artists,
Today I am posting the portrat's photose of the Japanease poetloorett yassunarry Kawawata. He was a great poet of World although he took suicied in his age of 70. Ok this much. Keep it going on. your concern is my inspiration, your encouragement is my power.
Thank
Manjul
Nepal

[lyhoa]

Manjul,
After 2 months I opened this site. Wonderfull, your creation and your dream is wonderfull. I am thinking just now what can I do for you. I wish Your dream get success as soon as possible so do the work hard. I am waiting your other photoes too. God bless you.
Lyhoa

[Teju]

Dear Manjul,
Where did you lost? Are you busy in your work. I just opened this site to see your new photos but I got it with the lack of that. Anyway it is right. Keep your work continue. I always wish you to success your dream being a student of Art . God bless you.
Teju

[MountainSong]

You are working quickly and consistently. Good for you! You have set a serious goal, keeping a steady pace up will continue to be very important. This last one is arresting – thanks for telling us a little about who he was as I didn’t recognize his face.

I almost missed your latest piece not realizing you’d added new photos, instead I thought is was someone commenting on your previous works. May I recommend starting a new thread each time you finish a sculpture that way they each get the attention due them instead of getting lost. :)

[desertrock]

Just a suggestion:
Your date stamps appear to be months behind the posting date, assuming these photos were taken recently. Perhaps resetting your camera date stamps to the current date, especially if you want to document the dates of each work accurately throughout the process.

Mark

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Mark,
Thank for your suggestion. I was using my camera negleting the date and time of it. I will attache the right date and time on it now. Again,Thank you.
Manjul

[lyhoa]

Dear manjul,
Why are you not posting photose? Are you bussy nowadays?
Lyhoa

[Miteri,Manjul]

All the Dear,
I am bussy in my exhibition. So it's being late to post my portrats photose, Sorry for it, I will appeare soon.
Manjul

[Miteri,Manjul]

All the Artists,
It is just end my exhibition today. I was very busy for it. Now I have some free time to write here. Today I am posting the photose of that exhibition. Here, you can see my wife also who helps me carving statues to success my dream. Keep it going on. your concern is my inspiration, your encouragement is my power.

Thank
Manjul

[Miteri,Manjul]

next one photo.

[evaldart]

Amazing. What a project. Bringing an ambitious and elevated vision into being like that is yet another unteachable quality. Whats next?

[jOe~]

You know how much we respect and admire your work. How was it received where you are? Do not be modest!!! Tell us about the attention that was paid to you.

jOe~

[GlennT]

Very cool to see these all in a group...it provides some perspective on how impressive this project is! The display of the work was done in good taste as well. Nice that your wife is helping you carve. In a few years perhaps we will hear about your children helping as well, like Gutzon Borglum's family who helped him carve Mount Rushmore.

Stay well.
Your project is an inspiration. Your chisels are full of power.

GlennT

[HappySculpting]

Hi Manjul,

The exhibition looked like it was a big success. Lots of people looking and enjoying all your hard work. What did people say? What did the local authorities think of your exhibition?

By you standing next to the busts I could see the scale of them better. Looks like you kept them approximately the same size. Nice uniformity. Presentation was very classy. You look like quite the artist in your nice suit. Your wife seems to be content and happy too. Having a supportive spouse is a blessing as well.

Thanks for showing us all the pics,

Tamara

[obseq]

Congratulations, Manjul!

I'm really happy to see recognition for your efforts!
Keep us posted. :-)

[cooljamesx1]

keep up the good work!

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Artists,
Yes, My wife(koushila) also carving portraits to success our dream. My 5 years old son Pratik also likes to play carving stones. i will post his pohoto later,
yours, Manjul

[Miteri,Manjul]

All the artists,
I was gone very far from my area to carve the portrats of 24 high persons of Nepal and some ambassador of foreign countries who were killed in a Helicrash 9 months ago. It is in high mountaine rang. But I could not carve them because the local stones were very hard to carve. If the stones were qualited to make, I would be carvinng them in free of cost through 'Kanchenjunga Conservation Area Project (KECAP) for WWF. I returned back just. Again I have started already my 1000 statues. Ok, Keep it on. I will appeare soon with my new portraits.your concern is my inspiration, your encouragement is my power.
Thanks
Manjul

[desertrock]

Manjul: Where do you normally get your stone? Do you pay for it? Is it affordable? How easy is it to have quality stone delivered (imported) to you?

I don't know about the rest of the forum community, but everytime I read Manjul's post and see a new piece I want to send him a nice piece of stone.
This is a very noble pursuit worthy of outside funding. A new thread could be started to discuss this. I would be willing to contribute $ for stone. I'm thinking Paypal and a co-ordinated effort with a quality stone supplier for starters.

Any takers (givers)?

Mark

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Mark, And Al the Artists,
Normally, I collect the stone from a local stream whisc is 15 km far from my home. I go there, cut out and collect near the way where sometimes the bues go for passenger and I use to bring by it paying money. Sometimes my freinds also help me to carry out the stone. In fact, I have very problem to arrange the stones. But anyhow I must do it. I use to pay to my helpers who help me to cut out the stones. But here are not good qualitid stones. All are hard to do. The qualited stones are expensive for me because of my poverty. By the way, economic level is not supporting me. Really, I want more sympathy from all you because I am nearly dying for my dream. It would be a historical who support me as they can.
Ok,Today, I am posting my two arts. One is 'War and Father". I am carving currently. I am making it in the rememberence of a Iraqi child who was killed in the war. Another statue is named 'Wounded Buddha'. It is wounded by war and cruel policy. 'War and father' is 18"x13" and 'Wounded Buddha' is 12" in size. I have kept them with me. Ok, Keep it on. I will appeare soon with my new portraits.your concern is my inspiration, your encouragement is my power.
Thanks
Manjul

[Miteri,Manjul]

Here are some more photos.
Yours,
Manjul

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Artists,
Being a Sculptor, I am very lucky man. Being a sculpture, I have taken a great aim to make 1000 statues of world famous personalities for gift to my nation (Nepal) which you also know well. I am posting the photos of the portraits which I have finished. Regularly, I am carving them honestly thinking that it is my honesty. In Nepal, this news has covered from ground level to high level of any kind offices and ministry. In first I thought that I can make all the 1000 statues without help of others but it became wrong. Nowadays, I am facing a lot of problems. I have not wide building to keep them, I have not more money to collect the stones, I have to hold my family also. Last week, I have collected 7 pieces of stones by a few money although my son’s school admition was going to date up. Now, I am nearly to die for my dream sometimes. Last month I called a meeting in my town to all the officers to arrange a museum for the portraits. I kept a purpose in them to stablish that in under the city. Unfortunately, they neglect me. I became alone. I wept alone. Really, they could not understand me. In fact, they say only by mouth not by working. But I will never stop my journey although I am alone and alone. I was hopping that my nation will help me a little but it did not so. It needs more money to complete and the nation neglecting me. Here, I can not earn more money for it. NOW, I am thinking to work in next country in sculpting as a worker. So, I am writing here all. I want to work in your country for 2 years. I think I will earn some money which I will use my dream again. I think you have large company of stone carving and I will do there as yours order. If you give me that chance that would be a historical event in this historical movement. If I get this chance I would use my skill as possible as. I have the skill of figurative art and Nepalese traditional art in stone carving. So, kindly, any stone carving company will offer me as a worker. Never mind, It is a sacrifice for my Dream. So think about it and help me.
Hopping Good, I am posting some photos of my art.
Hopping Good result,
Manjul
Stone Carving
Urlabari V.D.C.-3
Dist-Moarang
Nepal
Mobile-009779842047343
Phone no.-00977 21 540532

[Miteri,Manjul]

Here are some more photos.

[Miteri,Manjul]

Again,some more photos.
Manjul.

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Artists,
Yesterday, I just finist the portrait of the great German leader Otto Von Bismarck. And, I Started the next one ‘Gautama Buddha’(Lord Buddha). He is also a person among 1000 worldfamous presonalitis. I am happy today because today is the birthday of Lord Buddha and I started to carve him portrait just from today unknowingly his birthday. But the day came to sametime. In one day (today) I am near to finish it. I have posted his photo which I could carve within 8 hours today. Ok, Keep it on. I will appeare soon with my new portraits. your concern is my inspiration, your encouragement is my power.
Thanks
Manjul

[HappySculpting]

Very nice... Your pictures are getting better to. It's nice to be able to see the faces up close.

Each of us has a dream and we can relate to your struggle to realize it. Keep on a trying and never give up. I mean there really is no other choice but to keep sculpting since it's in your blood, right?

Hopefully, you'll receive enough funds to continue. We have a thread on this site that discusses what artists do for a living. Many of them have to take on menial type jobs or other less than desirable work to help support themselves. Perhaps you'll have to do this to. In time, your art can help to sustain you on it's own. Patience. ;)

~Tamara

[lyhoa]

Dear Manjul,
I am thinking you right now reading your problem what I can do being a lover of Art. It is a great sorrow for me too. Really, an artist dies by the cause of poverty and all provide him many gifts, presents and prizes after his death. I am talking about the great artist Van Gouge who was died by poverty. He was a great artist although his only one art was sold when he was near to die by poverty. But, Manjul, never be in hareshment. Almighty God is with you and he holds you carefully always. You are a Bravo.

Lyhoa

[Aaron Schroeder]

Hey Miteri
How much money do you need to make the wife happy and keep on working. I ask because I bet you don't need alot and that folks on this forum and beyond would chip in and help. I don't have much money but I'm sure that if I sent you twenty bucks it would go a long way in Nepal. It wouldn't solve your problems but it'd buy you a little time and if other artist followed my example and we all bought you a little time you could make it to your golden opportunity. Get specific. Keep up the work........something good will happen.

[desertrock]

I have all Manjul's contact info, and would be happy to forward to anyone (PM) who wants it. I have located a Western Union in his area. Paypal doesn't reach Nepal. The money is converted into Rupees in Nepal by WU. I'll be sending money next week when my commission check arrives.

Mark

[lyhoa]

Dear Aron,
There is no need the money to make my wife happy. We both are carving the portraits in the whole the day to success our dream. She does not need any happiness more than carving. And, I also never do to think that how to keep my wife happy. I think this site is not the footpath where I beg for my wife. My writing to all you is not for my wife's happyness. So, never think for our joyfull life because we have already given up that.
But, the matter to write here just for 1000 statues which we are carving for the Gift. I am poor and sometimes my poverty can not hold my dream. So, asking you. If I have no way to give continue to my aim, I must ask for help. Am I wrong?
And, I understood you, I am happy too. I will struggle for my dream untill my last breath.
I am carving regularly the portraits. I have just finished the portrait of Lord Budhha. He Is also a worldfamous person. Now, I am unable to post his photo because I sold my dg camera for the stones. I am going the hillside today to collect the stones. It will take 3 days. I will post his photo soon.
Dear mark,
I am happy to you. I have a plan hare. I am thinking to carve those portraits who help for this project because I have nothing instead for it. I will keep them in a room where the 1000 statues will keep. Ok, Keep it on. I will appeare soon with my new portraits. your concern is my inspiration, your encouragement is my power.
Thanks
Manjul

[Miteri,Manjul]

Hey Miteri
How much money do you need to make the wife happy and keep on working. I ask because I bet you don't need alot and that folks on this forum and beyond would chip in and help. I don't have much money but I'm sure that if I sent you twenty bucks it would go a long way in Nepal. It wouldn't solve your problems but it'd buy you a little time and if other artist followed my example and we all bought you a little time you could make it to your golden opportunity. Get specific. Keep up the work........something good will happen.
Dear Aron,
There is no need the money to make my wife happy. We both are carving the portraits in the whole the day to success our dream. She does not need any happiness more than carving. And, I also never do to think that how to keep my wife happy. I think this site is not the footpath where I beg for my wife. My writing to all you is not for my wife's happyness. So, never think for our joyfull life because we have already given up that.
But, the matter to write here just for 1000 statues which we are carving for the Gift. I am poor and sometimes my poverty can not hold my dream. So, asking you. If I have no way to give continue to my aim, I must ask for help. Am I wrong?
And, I understood you, I am happy too. I will struggle for my dream untill my last breath.
I am carving regularly the portraits. I have just finished the portrait of Lord Budhha. He Is also a worldfamous person. Now, I am unable to post his photo because I sold my dg camera for the stones. I am going the hillside today to collect the stones. It will take 3 days. I will post his photo soon.
Dear mark,
I am happy to you. I have a plan hare. I am thinking to carve those portraits who help for this project because I have nothing instead for it. I will keep them in a room where the 1000 statues will keep. Ok, Keep it on. I will appeare soon with my new portraits. your concern is my inspiration, your encouragement is my power.
Thanks
Manjul

[lyhoa]

Mark
Could you give me manjul's contact info?
Hoa.

[Araich]

I moderate this board and can tell you that there exists a deleted post beneath desertrock's but BEFORE Miteri's (Nepal) and it is from Lyhoa (Vietnam?) and it contains the exact content of Miteri's LATER post above.

Now I am no rocket scientist, but it seems pretty clear to me that Miteri and Lyhoa are the same person. What does this mean? My guess is that it means sending money would be foolish and that this is either a scam, or at the very least deceptive.

They both have the identical IP of 202.70.72.60

*EDIT: In the interests of transparency I will un-delete the message.

[desertrock]

I noticed the post your referring to also, and it does (did) look suspicious, the same writing style and word usage. Now it's turned into a plea for funds with a hard-luck story. Doesn't look sincere anymore to me. Even if Manjul is irrationally reacting to a genuine need for funds with niave manipulative tactics, it's to his detriment. I'm now out of the campaign for funds, and apologize to the forum for starting this idea.
mark

[HappySculpting]

Good thing I didn't send funds already. Was on my list of things to do though...

I don't know what's what either. Manjul probably doesn't realize how much the west (that's us, the U.S.) has been inundated with letters of hard times and how to please send money. We get spam letters like these all the time and they always are immediately deleted. Anything that at all seems like a scam will steer us away because we don't want to be a sucker.

But he did ask to work at first and not for money. I'm wondering if it was indeed a "naive manipulative tactic" he was using to drum up support in favor of sending him money. We don't like being manipulated. Not good. Down deep in my gut I think he's a real sculptor out there that does need the money though. Of course, there are a lot on this forum that could give a similar story and would love a promotion to send money to them for their equally important dreams!

~Tamara

Edit: Just went and ready all post written by "Lyhoa". There are 6 posts starting back in November. This scam was planned and started way back then... On 2 of the earlier posts "Lyhoa" mentions the phrase of "how I can help you", trying to get us all in the mind set of digging in our pockets. Much of the phrasing is similar in style to Manjul's, one has a "Keep it on" phrase. Too bad that kind hearted people have to deal with this kind of deception and too bad for Manjul because I was about to promote a lot more of you to sending money and tell you the steps on how to go about doing it with Western Union (seemed a little tricky so I was going to figure it out and share that). Manjul- your scam is out in the open. Apology in order?

Ariach- Thank you!

[Araich]

My pleasure Tamara :)

Forgive me if I am wrong (thank you obseq) but it looks to me as if 'Teju' is also a fabrication. The odds of another member writing enthusiastically in halting english, confined to this thread, from the same base IP, are unlikely.

The funny thing is that I very nearly posted a general warning a few pages ago but worried that it would seem cynical. Perhaps some cynicism is warranted.

[Miteri,Manjul]

Hey All,
You can guess me as you like.
BUt, named Lyhao is a person who lives in Vietnaam. She is my friend. At first, I asked her to wacth this site but she did not know how to open. she asked me to help to open her account because she was just learning to use net whe her account was oppened. I helped. I gave her idea to open. Even we talk in phone when I am going to net. Sametime she also use to go net. In 05-09-2007 09:50 AM, we wre both online. I asked her to write something in this site. I told her that I were also writing there something to post. After posting she ask me to show waht I am writing. At that time I sent my writing by email. Mistakely, she also sent this messeage. It came on the page, I told her to delete. She did immidietly and send next message. I am just came from collecting stones. I opened today and reading you writings. Sorry for mistake. You can ask her what is the fact. Here is her mobile no-0084906867960. It would be better if you asked me about the fact. It is also ok. You can write and you can guess me as your mind, no mentioned. But I think I have also the freedom to watch this site. And, I don't need your money too, Ok. Your words are enough to me, Ok.
Manjul.

[Araich]

So, you talk on the phone and email each other, but Lyhoa needs to ask Mark for your contact info?

[evaldart]

The jig is up.

[Tlouis]

It sure is! And any good feelings I had for this guy and his work are dead. Just what is it that makes some people duplicitous?

Lou

[HappySculpting]

Hey All,
[COLOR=DarkOrange][SIZE=7] At that time I sent my writing by email. Mistakely, she also sent this messeage. It came on the page, I told her to delete.
Manjul.

Lies to cover up lies. Didn't anyone ever tell you that you will get no where in life lying. You may be an artist but you won't get your dream with lying. You won't have credibility and people won't trust you. You'd be better off being honest and telling us the truth.

Fess up (translation: be honest) and maybe we'll be forgiving and look at your new works and comment. Otherwise, we'll not even do that. What's the point. You aren't being a true friend to us and why should we help you by commenting.

~Tamara

[desertrock]

It's better to just come clean and take total responsibility. The damage is light at this point. Then you might regain some respect, and over time you could become accepted again. The sooner the better, because I'm starting to wonder if these images are really even yours. If you keep trying to cover one lie with another, noone's going to give you any credibility or want to read your posts. There won't be any "words" left to encourage you.

Mark

[obseq]

Do you quite understand that when Araich pointed out that both messages carry the same IP address
this means they originated from the same computer?



Hey All,
You can guess me as you like.
BUt, named Lyhao is a person who lives in Vietnaam. She is my friend....

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Artits,
Why you all are angry with me? I am really unhappy nowadays. I was never accused like this. Sometimes a little negligence brings a huge result. I could not work yesterday. Really, I am very sad. It is the first accident in my life. I am feeling alone in this world now. I had collected many more encouragement from you yesterday and again it is killed your hated words today. OK, it's Ok. I never give up my dream although I am in the world of fire. So, I have given my aim as 'Iron Dream'.
This accident has really broken your soul also. I can understand, sorry for it. My dream is the dearest thing for me, it was kept in my soul when I was craved in first time on stone in my age of 11. It has gone 15 years carving stones. It has gone 2 years for my Iron Dream. It has gone a long time, many many things and freinds came and went but still my dream is with me. I can not imagine this 'Manjul' without 1000 statues. Whatever you think me, I am in possitive for it.
And, I have posted today my photo with my portraits again which I was posted already. Another portrait is Com. Prachanda. He is not as famous as others. He is a Neplese Maoist Leader. He is still alive. Another portrait is Lord Buddha. I have finished it just. Now I am carving to John Dalton, a great scientist. You can guess and write as you like.

Manjul

[Miteri,Manjul]

Com. Prachanda.

[HappySculpting]

Dear Artits,
Why you all are angry with me? I am really unhappy nowadays. I was never accused like this. Sometimes a little negligence brings a huge result. I could not work yesterday. Really, I am very sad. It is the first accident in my life.
Manjul

Sadness is a good thing if it means you are sorry but please don't try and make us feel guilty for being angry, it was your lie/deception that caused it.

Are you admitting that you did try to deceive us?

[desertrock]

Manjul,

You don't seem to understand what most of us are saying to you, or you are choosing to avoid it. The bottom line is that we KNOW that the messages from Lyhao came from your computer, i.e., YOU wrote them. She is clearly not a separate person who lives in Vietnam as you continue to state. We were clearly deceived and that is why we are angry. We are also angry because you continue to deny the deception. We have spent a lot of time reviewing your work and providing words of encouragement under your deception. Now that we know of the lies, we no longer wish to encourage you and no longer wish to view your sculptures. Those of us who use this site are honest and sincere artists who respect one another, which you do not appear to be. We would appreciate an admission of deceipt, an explanation of your motives, and an apology.

[jssculptor]

Good evening all...well it is here. For my sins I worked my way through this thread last night and was frankly amazed at A. you had accepted everything that this guy had to say all along, it did all smell a bit off. B. You read what Obseq had to say...both people had the same address. I'm sorry Manjul, and a thousand apologies if I'm wrong, but I suspect that your con is no accident, I would even admire your attempt to get money perhaps if you had been more professional about it. No thats a silly thing to say I hate anyones attempt to con well minded people. What is worse I even suspect that either A. You are not a carver at all, just using someone elses images. Or B. and more likely that the contemporary heads are yours but images such as those on post 77/78/79 are not...to be frank they appear in the photographs to have a patina of age about them, they look like the work of many different hands and also they appear to be created by people with substantially more skill and vision than the hands that produced the contemporary heads that you have posted here as your own which are at best amature, However that is not the point, if this is what you have done then your con is even more dispicable. I truly hope I am wrong about all this but suspect I am not. I assume that a moderator has checked on the sites front page (is that the correct terminology?), that Manjul actually comes from Nepal?. How sad that someone, especially a fellow artist, would try and pull off such a scam on such a bunch generally nice people that reside here. Again Manjul, prove me wrong and I will eat my words, hat and almost anything else.

So bloody sad...also I'm broke and have a dream of making art around the world and I know its all relative but in the poverty of Nepal you have a computer a mobile phone to call Vietnam...come on.

[jssculptor]

Hi Desert you beat me to it.

All the best

John

[Merlion]

Manjul,

You don't seem to understand what most of us are saying to you, or you are choosing to avoid it. The bottom line is that we KNOW that the messages from Lyhao came from your computer, i.e., YOU wrote them. She is clearly not a separate person who lives in Vietnam as you continue to state. We were clearly deceived and that is why we are angry. We are also angry because you continue to deny the deception. We have spent a lot of time reviewing your work and providing words of encouragement under your deception. Now that we know of the lies, we no longer wish to encourage you and no longer wish to view your sculptures. Those of us who use this site are honest and sincere artists who respect one another, which you do not appear to be. We would appreciate an admission of deceipt, an explanation of your motives, and an apology.
Manjul,

I'll repeat what has been said.

We would appreciate an admission of deceipt, an explanation of your motives, and an apology.

[Aaron Schroeder]

Miteri.......... I'm not angry with you......even if you are as they assume you are. Relax and except what has transpired here on the web and commit yourself to a period of damage control. If you are guilty as they/we think you are then coming clean is the best thing. If you are guilt free as you insist you are then give us a glimpse of what you are dealing with. If you are indeed in Nepal......far away from all of us.......then no harm can actuallly come from honest communication. Think long term.........Think about your dream........give us details.........I know that there is a story behind the story..........You are human, we all are, we make mistakes, or end up in situations that are difficult. Share with us. Whether you are an artist or a con-artist, we have been following this thread and even though I can't speak for anyone else, I'd like to hear about the complexities of your life. Get a digital camara, set up a photobucket.com account and show us alot of pictures that shows us who you really are.

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear All,
I am trying to cheat you. I have no time for it. I am sorry for it. Showing my portraits and dream among you is not my plan to cheat you all. I have also honesty and presstige. I can not kill it myself.
Some of Artits has written here "These potraits are not carved by one hand". How I can prove these portraits are mine. Ok, Here are some websites of some newspapers where the news were published about my Dream. Some of them may not be opened. Just try to find out. Log on www.nepalihimal.com , there are three options on the head. Click on the 1st option. The page opens with the papers of 2063 & 2062. click on 1-15 falgun of 2062. It shows many potions on the right side of page, but these are in nepali language. click on the 16th option. You can see there about me and my art. www.gorkhapatra.org.np(15Dec 2005),www.ekantipur.com(Dec1, 2005), www.kantipur.com.np(15 Dec, 2005),www.newsofnepal.com(Nov28, 2005). I have no idea how to post the photos on photobucket.com. can you help me? And, I already sold my digital camera. I am taking the photos by my freind's. Here, I have posted my carving photos and one more. Thank you.
Manjul

[evaldart]

Materi. okay so you're carving. Keep at it maybe you'll make a thousand heads maybe you wont. Your scheme failed here and you've lost some credibility and respect. So what, we are not really your source of inspiration, we are typed words.
Many here are or have been "poor" and many here have made much more than a thousand pieces of art, and will make another thousand. Your "series of a thousand" "dream" is ambitious and novel but it remains to be seen whether or not it contains good art.
I don't have anywhere near the resources to do what my art dream is dictating either, and I might even complain about it now and again. But hitherto, your complaining about hardships will be taken by me as another effort to swindle...send me right back to the beer thread. Maybe the team of fabricated conspirators could help you with the carving. If you continue to post heads and one of them inspires me to comment I will do so...we are here to support and critique each other and give individual insights; and its a two-way street.

[HappySculpting]

Manjul-

That was a very wimpy apology. You're better at scamming than feeling sorry and showing it. Oh well, can't make you feel sorry if you're not.

I'll add to Evaldart's comment about this forum being a "two way street." I've mentioned to you in PM when you frequently ask me to comment on your sculpture that you really need to comment on other artists works. If you want people to comment on your stuff then you need to not be selfish and think of others.

Hope you learn from all of this and become a better person for it.

As for me, I'm not inclined to comment on your works. Just turned off to it right now. Sorry.

[desertrock]

Post a picture of yourself with a sign that says "I am Manjul. Sorry."
Use your friends camera. Better yet, a picture of you holding a chicken-and the sign.
That would have some credibility!


Mark

[jssculptor]

Manjul...i'm unable to say anymore than goodbye, good luck, be honest.

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Evaldart & Tamara,
What is about "two way steert"? I could not understand about it. It would be better giving me the meaning of this.


And, Dear Mark, I will post the photo as your suggestion if it does not make a joker. Keep waiting. Please kindly explain about 'two way street' for me.


And, I wanna a suggestion that a FM station (Saptarangi FM 101.6MHz) is offering me as an ankor. But I am wandering what to do. If I would be a RJ, I will have not more time for my Dream. I want to give all my time for my Dream but some friends are suggesting me that waesting the time just for others (It means we should be commercial also) can not help to be alive, go & do. They are calling me to programme as soon as possible. I could not take out the decesion to involve or not. What can I do? Please help me here ok.
Thank
Manjul.

[evaldart]

Manjul, allright, no more finger-wagging from me. And because Time is not actually as precious as everyone thinks it is, I will give you some more words. You need to do whatever it takes to support your family and your art. You are not forsaking the "dream" by working as a dj, you might just be enabling it. Some steady money may prevent you from resorting to drastic and ill-intentioned measures and afford you some tools and stones. Time cannot be lost...intensity will make up for it if you're properly driven.
Also, I fear that in your obsession with the "1000" you have lost sight of the "one". Theses portraits need to be interesting individually, lest you waste all this time and stone producing caricatures. You must research and reference them fully to make each piece as good as it can be. Whether you are sculpting Attilla the Hun or Bill Gates you must capture more than what exists in the "popular" imagination. Up to now there has been a competent yet production approach to the carving. A little bland. I would hope that you try many different tools, materials, styles and approaches as you progress through this task you have initiated...But also, just because you have made a big damn deal about the thousand, this by no means shackles you to it. In time you might find that you want to pursue a different direction, which you must do, and you will still be remembered for the 500.

Oh. and "two way street" means that others may find that your opinion (words) concerning their work to be useful as well.

[Miteri,Manjul]

Thank you Evaldart.


And, Dear All,
One my friend told me that he saw my portraits on this website. Not only this Thread but also my private messages of my account of this website. I surprised how he could see my private message? Today, I opened my account and logged out. I checked on the monitor. All my address seen in the address list of monitor. Again I clicked on there, it opened. My private message, Image Gallery and etc all the page opened directly.

I have not personal computer at my home, I have to go in internet junction to use this thread. So, I am feeling somebody are watching this thread after me. I tried to delete the address form the address list of monitor after use but it had not deleted.

Dear Tmara, Merlion and respected All, I will try to walk on 'Two Street Way'. I will try to use my some times for it.

And, Dear Mark,
I have posted my photos holding the chicken which you had asked to do. Did I right?
Thank
Manjul.

[desertrock]

Yes. Close enough. That's humility! And you retained your dignity by NOT holding the sign. Given the language and cultural barriers, I think you have truly expressed your regret and attoned for your mistake- at least in my book.
You've also proven that you exist in real time, that your photos and work are really yours. No question about that. You have proven yourself a man of honor.
Keep carving!

Mark

[Miteri,Manjul]

Thank you Mrak.


And, I will join with you all again after somedays because today I going out of home to collect the stones for the portraits.


Manjul

[dilida]

Have ya'll noticed Manjul's english is better all of a sudden? Common phrases and slang, as in "wanna"? It was interesting to see he contacted Tamara PM, he did me also. After I commented on the "innocence" of his 1000 portrait dream. Artist? Con-artist. Bye Manjul.

[Miteri,Manjul]

Have ya'll noticed Manjul's english is better all of a sudden? Common phrases and slang, as in "wanna"? It was interesting to see he contacted Tamara PM, he did me also. After I commented on the "innocence" of his 1000 portrait dream. Artist? Con-artist. Bye Manjul.
Dear Lisa,
I always try to use the simple words here but sometimes combined too. I was used 'wanna' for 'want to'. I am sorry if it brought the bad meaning. I will try to use simply the best words in my writing. But, be 'positive' to me, Lisa.


Thank,
Manjul

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear all

Being Late,

I have posted the photos of the portrait of the great scientist Necolos Copornecos.


And, I am resting nowadays. But I will keep on to posting the photos of made portraits. It is abuot only 80 now. I have some work on demand to carve. I will carve them about 2 months. My target for this year is upto 100 portraits of my dream. I will give to my nation as advance the 100 statues in this year because I have not enough place to keep under my rented room. After resting about 4 months I will carve again. I want be fresh being out for some months from all the gathering of this extravaganda and so called world.


And I tried to walk on the 'two street way'. I could just watch not talk. I saw all yours Art and Views. All are nice. Don't think that 'Manjul is selfish, he never do write for others'. I always watch your creations and use to read your views too but just not write. Becuse I have already noticed you that I have language and time problem. I will write if I can again.


Thank
Manjul

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear All,
Here is a portrait in pencil art of a member in this forum done by me. I will write about him later.
Thank,
Manjul

[Tlouis]

This appears to be a tracing of a photograph. Which is why it looks so stiff.

[desertrock]

Here are photos to help you with my portrait.
I would like to look 10 years younger:) Just kidding.
Please hold back all Manjul flamings and wise cracks about my mug until Manjul is finished with my portrait.

Thanks.

Mark

[StevenW]

Please hold back all Manjul flamings and wise cracks about my mug until Manjul is finished with my portrait.

Thanks.

Mark


Holding back with all my might. ;)

Steven

[Miteri,Manjul]

This appears to be a tracing of a photograph. Which is why it looks so stiff.
Dear Tlouis, Mark Steven and all my friends,

I drew this by pencil on a white paper and scanned by scanner to send. So it looked like a tracing.

And, Thank you Mark, I got your nice and clear photos. It will help me to carve your portrait. I have decided to carve those statues who help me to success my Iron Desire by any kinds of help. And here, Mark (desertrock) is the first person helping me in the world. But, all you are also helping me to grow my power to success my desire. Ofcourse, you will be stay ever and ever near 1000 portraits until end of the History. Again, Thank you Mark.
I will come up soon with Mark's portrait.
Thank,
Manjul.

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Mark and All the Artists,


I completed the Mark's portrait and have posted here. I teried it to do best. How exactly and different, only my two eyes can not be noticed, It needs thousand eyes to find out. Please come on.

I will join with again.

Thank
Manjul

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear all

Here are ome more photos of mark with me.

yours,Manjul

[evaldart]

All right Manjul, life and a half too. Another great man to add to you collection.

[desertrock]

That's me alright! Very well done! Beautiful! The portrait that is....
I have had a very positive experience through private, personal corresponding with Manjul. Yes, I have helped him financially and will continue to do so in the future out of my sold sculpture funds. Not because he has done my portrait, but because I have come to know him outside of the thrashings of this thread. I have had the pleasure of viewing private family photos from his youth and his wife and children. I have learned much about him through his personal photos, more than his words. This is a man of dedication, spirit, and honor.
A man to be respected (forgiven) and admired for his integrity and perseverance.

Now you can all make fun of my mug shots:)


Mark

[StevenW]

Nice job Miteri, you actually made him look pretty good. ;)

[chris 71]

WOW!! Manjul I,d say thats one of your best so far Chris...

[HappySculpting]

Good job Manjul. Excellent hair. Also, really like the detailing of the skin. You have subtle wrinkles and lines in forehead, on neck, under eyes. You really captured him well. I enjoy this portrait a lot.

I hesitate to mention his chin being more pronounced than in real life. If Mark is happy with it as is then probably not a good idea to make any changes at all. It's his portrait and he might like that really strong looking chin just as it is!

Here is a transparency of the two images side by side..... See what ya all think... I know it's not like clay where you can put back stone once it's cut.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h281/tamaron/bm1.jpg

Glad you've won Mark over and hope that we can reestablish trust with you Manjul...

~Tamara

[desertrock]

I noticed the chin, but I'm not sure if it is the stone texture in that area and the play of light that is giving the pronounced chin look. Plus the portrait is larger than life, so it's hard to tell about the chin. Could be limitations of the stone in the chin area.
The nose is perfect as are the other features you mentioned. I think the frontal angle of his photo is a little higher than mine, but he made up for it with the profile photos to capture my likeness.
Thankyou Manjul! Great job!
What, no comments about my big honker or Robert Redford wrinkles?
keep it going Manjul!

Mark

[evaldart]

Its pretty damn good but I'm noticing a sharpness on the bridge of the nose that could use a little pushing.

[desertrock]

~Tamara[/QUOTE]
Glad you've won Mark over and hope that we can reestablish trust with you Manjul...



Here's a guy who has admitted his mistake, expressed regret, posed with a chicken, and done a stone portrait of a total stranger 10,000 miles away (and posed with it) for a mere $100 contribution. And, he's still here.
If I were stuck in a corrupt third world country (no offense Manjul) loved sculpting and needed funds I'd probably have tried the same thing, only I may not have had the berries to admit I was wrong on this forum. He's a young man, not worldly savy to our way of seeing things, and I'd say he's done a good job of reestablishing trust, if anyone is willing to accept it.
And I'd also go so far as to say that he is more talented than some people here, me included.
All I'm saying is give credit where it's due.

Mark

[Merlion]

Looking back at what has happened, Manjul initially had the good will of forum members showing us his many stone carvings in spite of his difficult situation. But later on, we noticed he was trying to con us. When this was pointed out he did not apologise even when asked more than once. This annoyed us, even making some of us angry.

I think in many parts of traditional Asia, saying sorry is a big loss of face or personal dignity. In such a society, for people who make a mistake, there is no such concept as apologising and asking for forgiveness. I am not sure if this is the case in Nepal where Manjul comes from.

[StevenW]

It's good of you to point out the cultural differences. Aside from the language barrier, cultural idiosyncrasies can go even further and you are quite right. In some cultures there is no such thing as "I'm sorry" or "we forgive" you, these are largely Christian concepts. I've been following the thread since the beginning and held off on casting any negative judgement because as far as I could tell it seemed more of a misunderstanding than a "con". If I were a con artist, the last segment of society I would be going after would be poor artists like myself.

Oh, P.S. Miteri, I'm not sure if it's okay to ask, but I'd like to nominate two of my favorite historical figures for you to consider.

Bobby Fischer and Thomas Edison..

Too bad we don't have a picture of Shakespeare, but that's life I guess.

[Miteri,Manjul]

Respected All,

I am very glad for your suport and suggestion. Really, that was my great mistake and an accident too. I learned many good lesson from it.

I tried the Mark's portraits to do best. I can not find what looks my art. Really I am only a child in Art. I need your support and suggestion.

Take me as a child on your hand.

Thank
Manjul

[desertrock]

I think you did a fine job on my portrait. No additional apologies are needed. You've done what needed to be done.
Keep posting your works. Many here will respect you and value you as a member of this community. Especially me.

Yours,

Mark

[Aaron Schroeder]

Good job Miteri. And thumbs up to you Desertrock for believing in this guy. Even though posing as a sculptor and soliciting money for an art dream may be one of the oldest cons, I really had no doubts that Miteri was/is real and could use our help. I love sculptors but just like every one else we make assumptions and jump to conclusions. My Mom has been to Nepal and made an effort to help in person as an art consultant ( I live in her shadow, she kicks art ass ), she has travelled all over this world promoting trade instead of aid. She's taught me a thing or two about what it's like to be a sculptor/artist in the third world. It sucks.......Sculptors all over the world live in crushing poverty, they need our help. Yet we judge........He who has not sinned, cast the first stone. Why are we so hard on each other ? Let the flood gates of sculpture love open for Miteri. He's real. He's Good.

[Tlouis]

Terrific post Aaron. Without forgiveness there can be no love.

Lou

[Miteri,Manjul]

Respected All,

I again beg the forgiving for my mistake. Forgive me, Love me, suggest me and help me.

And, today I have posted the portrait of Abrahum Linclon.

Dear StevenW, I alrready carved Shakespeare but not Bobby Fischer. I will do it too,Thank you.

Can I post some photos of myself here?

Please, keep me in touch. I am arranging my time how I could walk here on the 'Two Street Way'. I will be appeared more now.

Your concern is my power.

yours
Manjul.

[StevenW]

Dear StevenW, I alrready carved Shakespeare but not Bobby Fischer. I will do it too,Thank you.

Can I post some photos of myself here?



No one really knows who Shakespeare was although portraits of him have been done many times. I suppose there's nothing wrong with that because he was a great person and in the same way, Jesus has had his portrait done many times as well and no one really knows what he looked like either.

I'm glad to hear you're doing Fischer, he's probably crazy, but I can't think of too many other people that can be called that and still be great.

Of course you can post pictures of yourself here, that's what this forum is for, sculpture and sharing the experience, good and bad or whatever.

Keep doing what you're doing and let the rock take care of your worries.

Peace,

Steven

P.S. Miteri, part of doing all of these famous people means that in some sense you understand them. Are you studying some of their work in life? Do you read about them and get to know them? For me, learning about what I am sculpting is half of the fun and it helps to make a better image of that person when you know them a little better. I hope when you made Abraham Lincoln, you also learned something about him so that you can share that with people. You can get some good lessons from what you are doing. Your "two-way street" can be about carving the people and learning about them too. Have you thought about any women yet? How about Mother Theresa?.. There's a lot of very important women in history too.

Keep working on your dream and everything will be fine.

Take care,

Steven

[Miteri,Manjul]

Respected All,

I am just come back collecting the stones. This time I brought more than 25 pieces mostly for ANJ. It made me more tiered.

Dear StevenW, Yes, I use to study as possible as I get the biography of those persons whom I carve. I was posted the last portrait of Abraham Lincoln. He was born in feb.12, 1809AD in a poor family of America, in Kentucky state. He is that universal man who emancipated the slavery in America. He is the 16th president of USA (1861-65). He was died April15, 1965AD in assassinated death.

Today, I am posting the portrait of Geoffery Cahucer. He was born in 1341?AD And died in 1400AD in England. He is the father of the English Literature. His the oldest epic 'The Canterburry Tales' is the wealth of world literature. Here he is.

And More, I don’t know totally about all the world famous personalities biography which I must carve. Next, I am thinking to carve to George Washington. I know a little about him, not more. So, please write more here about him if you know. Keep it ON.

Yours
Manjul.

[Peter Murphy]

Too bad we don't have a picture of Shakespeare, but that's life I guess.


I know I've seen photos of a supposed Shakespeare death mask before, this article agrees that it exists and argues for its authenticity. Though I imagine you would never be able to cast away all doubt surrounding his appearance. I'm sure a likeness that looks like popular shakespeare portraits would serve the purpose!


http://www.uoregon.edu/~mharrsch/2006/02/shakespeare-death-mask-genuine.html

[evaldart]

Chaucer indeed! Very nice manjul. The Miller's Tale rescued me from the boredoms of high school literature class...forbidden metaphor causing me to think of things other than Frank Frazetta, barbells and chess.

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Artists,

Today I am introducing me thinking that it will make us closer. Here is the introduction about myself and my possibilities.

Especially, I am a sculptor having an Iron Dream which you know. I mostly use my time for it. I must complete it in ten years' duration. I can not get to use my whole time for it. I have to hold my family too. I have the brave that I could complete it within 5 years if the time would be right for me.

And, I am a national player of Wushu (Kung-Fu) in Nepal. I use my morning time for it everyday. I am completing my 'A' level course of Wushu in this year. It has gone 5 years in my Wushu training and I am doing hard labour for it too.

I am a singer too. I have written some songs and given them music myself. I wish if I able to carry out my music album. I gave my three songs and music to a singer for his music album. My a song titled 'Although smile please!' won the three first prizes for lyric, music and vocal (all round) in a statewise competition in Darjeling ( India) . My dear songs are not getting to fly in this musical sky.

I have written 9 shorrt stories for a story collection book. I have made ready to publish out my story collection. The top three greatest writers of Nepal have written their views for it. My a story is selected in top 30 stories of Nepal. My book is not getting to publish out.

I think dreaming is not the full success in life. Health, labour, passion and honesty are must necessary things to get the achievement. But, not only these but also the support of society, sympathy, concern and the money roles in it.

Nowadays I am getting more brave being with you all the sculptors of this sculpture.net forum. I am collecting more power and support for my dream.

I hope that all my possibilities get the chance to blossom and it will give some gift to this world.

Here is the portrait of Late Harka Gurung who was died in a helicrash with 23 other high persons in Nepal and I am carving those portraits for Association of Nepalese Journalists in the free of coast. I have completed 3 of them. It is a new piece in colour. Is it matchable colour for statues or not? please suggest me. And one more photo of myself in Wushu training.

I am happy with you all.

Yours truly,
Manjul.

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear All,

It is just finished. She is Late Mrs.Margaret Alexander, member of an American Development Agency and was died in Helicrash in Nepal. Here are three photos of her. One is coloured, another is blank colour and one her master photo too. I tried to do well, but.........it didnot be 100%.,

Yours
Manjul.

[Miteri,Manjul]

Respected All,

This is the portrait of John Dalton. He was born in sep.6,1766 in England and died in july 27, 1844. He is the grreat scientist. He is the founder of Dalton's Atomic Theory.

He was born in a poor family at Eaglesfield. He was so talent that was made him the headmaster in a school in his age of 12. He was not satisfied wasting his time for teaching in school, then tuetion and then college. He gave up that all and started to seasons study. He spent his time for reaserch in sceince.

His great work for world is The Atomic Theory.
And here he is.

Manjul.

[Merlion]

The background information of each person is useful. Are you going to have them written down and placed next to each protrait?

By now, how many have you carved ?

[Miteri,Manjul]

Yes Merlion,

I have written those biography which are completed. It is being a thick dairy now.

And, I have completed 80 portraits. I am carving some other portraits which I am posting those photos currently. But these are not for 1000 statues. It will take my 3 months and again I start to add the number for 1000. I will complete 100 of those portraits in this year and give my Nepal as starting of my Iron Dream. I hope, that programme will be launched in Nepal with you all.

Yours,
Manjul.

[Miteri,Manjul]

Respected All,

After long time, I am here. I am very busy in carving nowadays. I have completed 12 portraits for ANJ. Here are 24 altogether. I have to complete all within this one month. So I am carving them in night too. But I am not able to post those photos now.

Here is the portrait of the great scientist Volta. His full name is Volta Count Alessandro Giuseppe Antonio Anstasio. He was born in Feb 18, 1745 Cosmo, Italy and died in March 5, 1827, Cosmo. He was the Inventor of the First Electric Battery.

Ok, I will post the photos of my new portraits. Keep it on touch.


Thanks,
Manjul

[StevenW]

Looking good Miteri, keep them coming. I am curious about the stone itself, what kind is it? Is it soft, hard, easy to carve? I assume since it is near a river that it is perhaps soft and maybe even sedimentary. The texture looks uniform and gray, almost like a clay or siltstone.

[Miteri,Manjul]

I am curious about the stone itself, what kind is it? Is it soft, hard, easy to carve? I assume since it is near a river that it is perhaps soft and maybe even sedimentary. The texture looks uniform and gray, almost like a clay or siltstone.
Dear Steven,

Here is a small stream named 'Mikluck' near my village , the poor for water. My village is near hill. There is no more stream exclude it. Here is not the river near my region. The flood brings the stones in rainy season and I use to collect them. Again it finishes around me and I have to waite to next summer season for stones. Here find many kinds of stones mostly hard and sandy. Some are smooth and soft too. And they have different colours. I use to collect smooth but not soft to carve. If I carve on soft stone, it will be damaged soon. I often carve on hard and sandy stone in lack of smooth. Most of my portraits are on hard stones. Some are sandy and smooth but not soft. And it is more hard to carve on hard and sandy than smooth. But I try to feel that I must be take it as easy.

Ok, I am working hard and regular. Keep it on.

Thanks,
Manjul

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Sculptors,

Today I posting some photos those portraits which I am carving for ANJ. I miessed to take photo of some completed portraits. Here are some. It is nearly to complete. keep me in touch.

Thank
Manjul

[Miteri,Manjul]

Respected All,

Here are some more photos.

Thank
Manjul

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Sculptors,

I am posting the photos of a worldfamous personality today. It is not for ANJ. It is for 1000. I have posted her photo already in this thread but that was small. And here is more clear and larg today.

It is the portraite of Pasang Lhamu Sherpa(Nepal). She is the first Nepealese woman to climb the Mt. Everest. She was died in mountain sliding.

OK, I will come up with my portraits regularly. Keep watching on.

Thank
Manjul

[Miteri,Manjul]

Respected All,

Here is Jean Hennary Duenant again with more clear and larg photos than before.

Keep it on.

Thank
Manjul.

[Miteri,Manjul]

Respected All,

It is the portrait of King Birendra (Nepal). He was killed with all his royal family in a terrible and suspensive murder. He is the dearest king of Nepal. We all Neplease do always miss him.

Thank
Manjul.
manjul_art@yahoo.com
art_nepal@yahoo.com

[Aaron Schroeder]

Thanks Miteri..........I see your sculpting.......and it makes me happy. Your dedication is an inspiration to me. I look forward to your next portrait.

[StevenW]

Thanks Miteri..........I see your sculpting.......and it makes me happy. Your dedication is an inspiration to me. I look forward to your next portrait.

Ditto, I am watching as well. Each one looks better and better. I'm drawn to the eyes in each one.

Keep at it,

Steven

[jynja]

Respected All,

It is the portrait of King Birendra (Nepal). He was killed with all his royal family in a terrible and suspensive murder. He is the dearest king of Nepal. We all Neplease do always miss him.

Thank
Manjul.
manjul_art@yahoo.com
art_nepal@yahoo.com

Manjul,
I just started reading this thread and watching from beginning to yesterday, your sculpting. It is very impressive.

I have taken a couple of stone carving classes from some people in Africa, thus have learned how to carve with hammer and chisel, rasps, and the use of sandpaper, and any other hand tool to finish.

I am impressed by your speed and attempt at accuracy, as well as, your chosen subjects. I assume you read about each person you are sculpting so this is also a journey through history lesson for you?

Have you ever thought of teaching stone carving? You certainly are good enough to find students. Were you closer to here, I would sign up for a few.

Jynja
http://www.photobucket.com/albums/v230/jynja

[Miteri,Manjul]

No Jynja, I am not thinking to teach carving now. Once I taught to some students but I felt that was interrupting to receive my goal. I had to give more than 3 hours per day for that and I had less time to carve for my 1000 statues. And I decided not to waste my time for other. I must have to complete it within 10 years. So I am just carving, carving and carving. Thanks for your advice.

Dear Aaron, Steven and all the sculptors,
I am trying to improve my skill in carving. I am glad when you say 'you are doing better'. Thank you. let me continue to it.

Yours
Manjul
manjul_art@yahoo.com

[Aaron Schroeder]

Happy birthday ! Perhaps today would be a good day to start a self portrait. A time of self reflection can be a good thing. Include yourself in your dream.

[Miteri,Manjul]

THANK YOU AARON

Oh, I am not thinking to carve my self portrait now because I am have not get that achievement still now to do carve and add . But I will cavre my own portrait in the turn of 1001st when I complete the 1000. I hope, I will get that time to show and share all with you.

Manjul.

[StevenW]

Happy Birthday indeed, we're both Libra's,... Mine was on the 4th. :)

I never got the whole thing about self-portraits, not that there's anything wrong or vain about them,.. I suppose it makes it easy to find a model etc,.. But I don't think I'll ever do one of myself. There's too many other things to do that I find more interesting.

[Merlion]

. But I will cavre my own portrait in the turn of 1001st when I complete the 1000.....
How many have you carved by now?

[evaldart]

But is it not true that everything an artists produces is actually a self portrait, a piece of himself given out for judgement by all its seers...sorry, I don't really believe that.
Self portraits are a good exercise or study. I try to do one every few years, usually a painting or drawing. It will be fun to assemble them together around the deathbed one day and watch myself grow old by my own hand.

[Aaron Schroeder]

That's exactly what the discipline of self portraits is all about, Gathering them about your death bed ( Could be any day )and watching yourself get older by your own hand.

Thanks evaldart........Well said.

So Miteri how many portraits have you done and more importantly how many more do you have to do before you can carve one of yourself ?

[StevenW]

I've already done the whole deathbed thing, gives me the creeps to even think about it anymore. When I pay the check next time there won't be any sitting around, lamenting or waiting, just the thundering trumpets of Valhalla. :)

[Miteri,Manjul]

Thanks for wishing Happy Birthday. That day is great and devine day for me.

Aaron says "Self portraits are a good exercise or study." Ofcourse, It is also the measurement of the skill of an artist too.

And I have carved 80 portraits untill now and it is going on rapidely as soon as possible. Here are 920 pieces to carve and one is self. I will complete these within 10 years and Manjul will get the turn to be carved. But you can advice me when to carve that, now or at last.

Today, I am here with the portrait of LaxmiPrasad Devkota, The poetlorret of Nepal. I have added putting on his nose because it was broken there.

Ok, keep the dialouge on. I am here always with my Iron Dream.

Yours
Manjul



How to share my photos in photobucket.com?

[Merlion]

How to share my photos in photobucket.com?
I do not use it. Landseer uses it a lot and has been very willing to explain. Suggest sending him a Private Mail.

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Landseer and Jynja,

It would be pleasure to me if you explain how to share my photos in photobucket.com.

Here, it is the portrait of the great Neplease writer Parijaat. She was born in India but wrote many more neplease novels and stories. She was physically weak but wrote most powerfull books for society. She was born in 1938 and died in 1993. She is an international writer of Nepal.

Her portrait is here, keep it on the eyes.

Thank
Manjul

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Sculptors,
Here are my new pieces of Buddha with the big one. The small pieces have 6'' height. I have carve these for my Japanese freind as a Gift. Turn on it again.

Thanks.
Manjul

[Merlion]

Why in the 3rd picture from the left, the Buddha is wearing something like animal scales, similar to the scales of the dragon ?

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Merlion and all the respected Sculptors,

In Nepal, sculptors use to carve many design of clothes for Buddha. 1st the simple wearing cloth (Plain Buddha), 2nd Nacked Buddha and 3rd Dragon in his cloth (Dragon Buddha). Here is a tradition to making dragon in back to Buddha.

Following his biography, he lived alone in the dark forest for a long time in meditation. He would be disturbed by any wild creatures in that time. And, a Dragon was sent to him from the Heaven for his protection. The dragon saved him from the dangerous creatures being his wearing cloth (Vastra). In this way, we do carve the dragon on the back of Buddha for his protection.

Here is a next trend of dragon in Buddha. Dragon is the symbol of ‘Good Luck’ in Nepal. Especially the small sized Buddha are used as Gift. People use Dragon Buddha as a gift wishing ‘good luck’.

In Kathmandu, especially in ‘Newary Society’, almost people worship the Dragon Buddha as a protector in their home.

We, sculptors, carve the Dragon Buddha as the best quality of Buddha, especially for export. I carved these pieces of Dragon Buddha as my best for export (Japan).

Next, I carved a new piece of Buddha - Laughing Buddha . Making these three small Buddha and this Laughing Buddha ‘refreshed’ me from the ‘portrait carving hang up’. Laughing Buddha is the symbol of happiness especially in Chinese culture. And, I carved this one as a Gift to Ministry of Culture, Tourism & Civil Aviation for the further process to my 1,000 statues (Iron Dream). Here is this.

And, I am near to 10,000 responsible and respectable viewers in this Thread. I will share this happiness soon with you.

Thank
Manjul.

[Cantab]

Good to hear about your activities again, Manjul. I love all this work.

[Will]

Manjul you are an inspiration and a testament to the artists soul. I believe on the first page of posts, you mentioned the stone you were using and your living environment. You endure your only short comings and create. The short comings being the quality of stone available and your economic situation.

I agree with CJX1, your work is getting better and better as you sculpt. I wish you success as you fulfill your goal of a 1000 sculptures.

Will

[Miteri,Manjul]

10,000 Viewing


Dear Sculptors,

It is 3 years passing away with sculpture.net and sharing the views with ISC. I was alone in Nepal who was roaming in search of the sculptors all over the world to share every moment and every point of sculpting. Meanwhile, I got this website luckily and started to participate regularly. I started to show my photos of portraits which I am carving for Gift to nation. I had only a few portraits when I started to join it. Now I have near to 100 portraits and more passion.
Merlion, Tamara, Mark, Cantab, Mountainsong, Glent, Obseq, Joe, CJX1, StevenW, Arron, Evaldart, Lisa, Juliyana and so many other respected sculptors taught me to participate here with all. All the respected sculptors watched concerning my work and wrote their powerful words for support to carve continue. And now, this 'Photoes Of 1000 Statues' has more than 10,000 responsible and respectable viewings and more than 1000 replies.
Sculpture.net came up with me as a friend of every moment of sculpting and all the members as the power to every step of carving.
More than 10,000 times viewing this Thread teaches me the lesson this my goal is not the ordinary matter. Your viewing says this work is wonderful for the world and must have been completed. I started my goal alone and it was my personal matter in the beigening. But now, it is become as a common matter in the society. 'Manjul' is not the HERO of this historical movement, now, every person is concerning and trying to do best for it.
You, all, watched every portraits here and wrote something for me. More, Mark (Desertrock) sent me some contribution for my goal. These all are great for me.
One thing, if I am unable to give continue to it (by the cause of physical or mental weakness or death), you must have to link the continuity and complete it. If you are also interested to carve for it, you can join with me now.
Facing many rising and falling movements, this thread is being the most interested one and collecting the power for Manjul to carve continue.
You, respected, asked me to walk on the 'Two Way Street' . I tried as you said but I felt I can't do as you said. I usually carve in the whole day. This tiredness does not support me to think and write more here. Although I usually watch all the threads and write something on it only.
I was gone to collect the busts. I collected 50s and just returned back. My friends helped more me to collect. Here is a photo of my friends carrying the stones from the stream.
At last, I don't need more words here. I do post regularly, you watch on it and just write 'Keep it on Manjul'. Just this one sentence is enough for me to carve continue. I am carving continue and you just watch me. Let's do it now

Thank
Manjul

[grommet]

Those are some true friends. For you, I wish that you may have the strength to reach your goal.

[evaldart]

Friends and supporters such as us and your crew are only of peripheral significance. You will succeed Because YOU are the one posessing the strength. We can only cheer you on. Eat your meat and drink your milk, you cannot do this without a fueled body. I know you will continue to work hard. 1000 will occur by your hands soon enough.

[jOe~]

'Keep it on Manjul''Keep it on Manjul''Keep it on Manjul''Keep it on Manjul', everyone repeat after me ..'Keep it on Manjul'.

[StevenW]

10,000 Viewing
One thing, if I am unable to give continue to it (by the cause of physical or mental weakness or death), you must have to link the continuity and complete it. If you are also interested to carve for it, you can join with me now.

Okay, if you fall in battle I'll pick up the flag. I'm not the richest guy and can't send you money, but if I can take a head off your shoulder I'd be happy to donate one for the cause. One thing you should do is get a spreadsheet like excel or some open office (free one) and keep a current list of all the people you have done and the order you did them. it will be good to have a nice documentation of the effort when the final goal is reached.

Keep at it,

Steven

[Miteri,Manjul]

Respected Sculptors,
After a long time I am here. I just completed George Washington and Van Gogh. I am working regular. More than that I am establishing a Museum named 'Manjul Museum'(A Cluster of Artistic Creation) and I am busy for it. It is great for me. I managed a big hall for it in rent. It is near to complete and opening. All are responding well. People are suggesting and helping me. It is the first Museum in our region. And I am making a biography and spreadsheet of those persons as StevenW said. I am happy with you all.
I am writing here more, today.
My sculptures were in a dark room and that was narrow for these. I was planning to keep them in a wide and decorated hall. I was asked with many to do for this but at last I came to know that I must handle it to start. It needs money also. I was arranging that myself. At last, I am starting now. I was collected $1000 for it. Some people helped $1000 as contribution and it is lack of the sum of $1500 to complete it. It is the money that is been collected by me. It is being difficult to manage. Meantime I remember you all and requesting here for your help as you can. I need your help in this time. Your contribution will be kept in the spreadsheet. Please think for me.
Yours Manjul
Nepal

[Miteri,Manjul]

Some more photos of preparing the Hall.
Manjul

[nycpntr]

RAD!
Nice touch with Van Gogh's LOBE missing. Alot of people think his whole ear was cut off.
keep it up
-Max

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear All
It is a week passed away opening the Museum named ‘Manjul Museum’. It is established for protection the 1000 portraits. Other Members are also involved here. I was busy for it and not carving thosedays but I again start to carve continue. I will come up with my new portraits. Here are some photos opening ceremony of Museum. Keep the watch on.
Yours,
Manjul
Nepal

[Miteri,Manjul]

Some more photos.


Thank
Manjul
Nepal

[Aaron Schroeder]

Looks good !!!

How many have you done ? How many left to go ?

What are you going to do after 1000 ?

[Miteri,Manjul]

Looks good !!!

How many have you done ? How many left to go ?

What are you going to do after 1000 ?

Dear Aron,
I have carved 80 portraits of them. Here 920 portraits are left. I have to complete them within this 10 years.

Theasedays, I am spending all my skill and time just for 1000. I have imagined many more art in my brain to carve but I have no enough time to do. I am waiting the time to my own creation and I hope I can use the time after complete 1000.
Keep on the Watch.
Thank
Manjul
Nepal

[desertrock]

Would a pneumatic (air) chisel and compressor speed things up?

Mark

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Mark,
It would be better and fast to carve with pnuematic chisel. I am preparing for it. Can I use Jackhammer for it? Any name of tools please? Suggest.

Thank
Manjul

[Elevate]

Hi Manjul

Beautiful work. Please email me at info@elevatemanagement.com
I want to hear from you. I have some work I need you to do for me
please let me know.
thanks.
Daan

[obseq]

Hi, Daan,

Your profile details that your company is one that is "...focused on positive public art" but the website, www.elevatemanagement.com, does not provide any indicators of this assertion whatsoever.

Can you clarify?

[racine]

Manjul, you stated that you have other ideas to sculpt, as interesting as these 1000 are i do sugest the other ideas may be just as important. i was more impressed by your broken buddha.
sometimes we have ideas that may seem good for other people or later... maybe but often they are the ideas that really make a difference. i should be sad if these 1000 become a burden to you and no longer a pleasure, if your creative time is broken up for other projects sometimes it may help in the long run.

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Racine and All the respected Sculptors,

Thank you, I am also happy for my ‘Wounded Buddha’. I was carved it as well as I can and broken for my image. Really, I tried to reflect here the reaction of ‘War’ by my art (Buddha is the symbol of Peace). And I am collecting more images for creation thesedays.

These days, I should use my most time for 1000. But, I even save other shape of creation in my list to carve during in carving 1000.

This 1000 definitely makes me economical poor and it takes my worthy time but I can not explain my satisfaction and pleasure in word which this 1000 has given me, it is great for me. I think every bust of 1000 is a pleasure for me and I hope I will get that fortune to carve more than 1000 till my death.
After a long time, I am giving continue here. I was suffered some disease and rested for some months and again started to carve.

Here is the portrait of Napoleon Bonaparte. He was born in France on 1769 and died on 1821 at St. Helena. He was the greatest Military Commander and Empire of France(1804-1814/15).
Ok, I will come up again with my portraits, keep the Watch on.

Thank
Manjul

[racine]

Manjul, i hate to point this out as i like what you are about, but your napoleon 1st of france dosnt feel quite right, as a european i know his face as image and sculpture very well and i wonder if your source image was correct, have a look.
its possible that some artists from the 19th century improved buonapartes appearance to give him more commanding character but this is more how we know him.
of course as i am british and my family was kicked out of france earlier, i should like to ask if you are going to sculpt arthur wellesley the duke of wellington- who defeated napoleon, and declared that he was surprised by napoleons lack of warcraft and called him 'a bit of a pounder'.

[GlennT]

Manjul, I agree with Racine, who in fact was being diplomatic. Most of your work one can derive the identity of the subject. In this one, I could have taken 1,000 guesses had I not known the title, and would not have come up with Napoleon. He does look like someone, and if you save it you may encounter an inventor or someone who it resembles closely enough to rework slightly for his bust.

I would seriously consider starting this one again after studying several famous paintings or sculptures of Napoleon. His image is well known by most Europeons and Americans and needs better accuracy to preserve your artistic reputation.

[StevenW]

Mitari, I'm glad you're feeling better.

He looks a lot like Eddie Rickenbacker if you take the earlobes in a tiny bit, he was a WW1 flying ace. Slow down a little, 1000 seems like a lot and maybe you feel like you need to hurry, but as you do more your accuracy will improve, your speed is already there.

Good to see you,

Steven

[racine]

Mitari, I'm glad you're feeling better.

He looks a lot like Eddie Rickenbacker if you take the earlobes in a tiny bit, he was a WW1 flying ace.
Steven

the main reason ww1 air ace comes to mind is because of the collar and hair style. i looked up e rickenbacker and there is something in it. pictured.

the long ear lobes you have used are a budhist motif, longer the ears, better/greater the person. my wife is always pulling mine as hope springs eternal.

[GlennT]

the long ear lobes you have used are a budhist motif, longer the ears, better/greater the person. my wife is always pulling mine as hope springs eternal.

Are you sure she's not pulling your leg?

[Miteri,Manjul]

Wow! clear picture Racine, thank you.

Yes, this picture and my portrait (Napoleon BonaparteI) look totally different, I agree. There was the turn to carve to Napoleon 1st but I had not the clear picture to do. I had a piture of Napoleon printed and published by Neplease publisher. That was not clear and I was not satisfied. That was also painted by a so called Neplease Artist. Anyhow I had to carve. I tried to collect the picture by google also but I could not. Finally I carved on the base that poor picture.

I found there many differnet between these pictures in hair style, uniform, charactor.
Now I am very happy because Racine helped me to carved real Napoleon posting the photo.

Onething, I was requested once to you (all the respected sculptors) to help me posting the pictures of worldfamous personalities. Please! Help again.

Now, just now I again rework on my Napoleon 1st with this clear picture and come back. Keep the Wacth on.

Thank
Manjul

[Miteri,Manjul]

Respected Sculptors,

Here, I have posted the new photograph of Bonaparte-I which I reworked again. I am not sure it is totally similar with the photo but I tried to do so. Keep the Watch on.

Thank
Manjul

[Miteri,Manjul]

Respected Sculptors,

Here is the portrait of Friedrich Engels. He was the great German socialist philosopher and the closest collaborator of Karl Marx in the founding of Modern Communism. He was born in 28th Nov.1820 at Barmen, Rhine Province, Prussia and died in 5th Aug.1895 in London. Ok, I will post soon another portrait, keep the Watch on.

Thank
Manjul

[Miteri,Manjul]

Respected Sculptors,

Here is the photo of another portrait. He is Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov ‘Lenin’ (V.I. Lenin). He was born on 22nd April 1870, Simbrisk, Volga and died on 21st January 1924. He was the greatest leader of the Russian Revolution and the First Head of the Soviet Republic (1917-1924).

Ok, I will post soon another portrait, keep the Watch on.


Thank
Manjul

[racine]

a good Lenin M, let us know which famous people you need extra images of and i am sure people here will help. you can give me your list if you wish to keep private the next surprise and i will find some time to help you.. J

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Racine and respected sculptors,

I am carving on Ho Chi Minh now. I hope your help makes easy to carve. I will write here about my next portrait.

Today I am come up with a new work. He is Sun Yat-Sen. He was born on 12th Nov 1866 in Hsian-shan, Kwantang province, China and died on 12th Marh 1925 in Peiking. He was the First President of China (1911-12 & 1923-25). And He is the Father of Mordern China. He was the great leader there to through out the Manhu monarchy form China. Here he is.

Ok, I will post soon another portrait, keep the Watch on.


Thank
Manjul

[Merlion]

Here is the photo of another portrait. He is Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov ‘Lenin’ (V.I. Lenin).
Do show us a side view. Artists like to show his side view as it is very striking.

[rika]

Hi Manjul, I read all the pages, and checked out all your portraits. They definitely get better and better. I really like the Lenin and Ho Chi Minh.
A question: do you ever read about their life and personality before you start working on them? I'm asking this because of your Napoleon. The second version has a good likeness, his personality doesn't come through though. He looks like a content family man here. I doubt he would have like this portrayal. He had a huge ego, a strong personality, a mix of soldier, a tyrant and an emperor.
I just thought this might help you in your huge undertaking. Good luck, rika

[racine]

uncle ho......difficult man to catch from the side unless flat on the notes, with extra boats

[Miteri,Manjul]

Thank you Jim for these photos. It will help to carve.

And Rika, I am trying to do best on my work. The last posted photo of my work is Sun Yat-Sen and I am carving Ho Chi Minh now. I will come soon with him.

keep the Watch on.


Thank
Manjul

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Sculptors,

Here is the portrait of my Ho Chi Minh. Here is a photo also as my base to carve it. He was born on 18th May 1890 in Hoang Tru, Vietnam and died on 2nd Sep 1969. in Honoi. He was the Leader of the Nationalist Movement & a Great Communist Leader, President of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam (1945-1969).

And, Rika, yes I try to know more about that worldfamous person which I will carve next as my posibilities. The books, internet and media help me more for it.

Yes, the next will Mao Ze Dong. Please, help me for photo.

Ok, I will post soon another portrait, keep the Watch on.


Thank
Manjul

[GlennT]

Your Ho Chi Minh portrait appears to be your best one so far from a technical standpoint. I don't know how you have been persuaded to use "great" as a term to describe a communist leader, especailly one who helped cause so much death and misery for his country, or "democratic republic" to describe a communist state. Look up the word "oxymoron".

Anyway, politics aside, it seems you either related more closely to this subject, had better visual references, stepped up your performance another notch, or some combination of all three. I hope you continue this progress with your future portraits.

[Miteri,Manjul]

I don't know how you have been persuaded to use "great".....

Respected GT,

I used the word 'Geart' for Ho Chi Minh here without no prejudice. I don't know no more about his movement in Vietnam. I searched the biography, history about him in google and more books but I found only the expalin for his good deeds and found used 'great' for him. But I am not in his personal relation and political affection. It is thankful for me to knowing that he is the cause of death and misery in Vietnam.


And, I am trying to collect the worldfamous persons from different countries, religions, politics, culture form this World. So, I am always trying to stay far from prejudice being an Artist.


Ok, I will post soon another portrait, keep the Watch on.


Thank
Manjul

[StevenW]

When you feed 1000 people you're bound to get a few flies in the soup. :)

[Miteri,Manjul]

When you feed 1000 people you're bound to get a few flies in the soup. :)
Respected StevenW,

I could not understand the meaning of your sentence, sorry.
Please!

Manjul

[Miteri,Manjul]

Respected Sculptors (esp. StevenW),

I Hardly understood the meaning of your sentence, it took my some days, thank you. I have no word to reply to it. If I would try to reply it would take my other two days. But I didnot it because I could carve one more sculpture in that time.

Yes, I like to carve the Art on stone not the words on paper. I mostly enjoy using my fingers on stone but not on keyboard. I think that I am not perfect for arguement. Let me carve continue.

Here is the portrait of Jawaharlal Neharu.He was born on 14th Nov 1889, Allahabad, India and died on 27th May 1964, New Delhi. He was the first Prime Minister of India (1947-64).

Ok, I will post soon another portrait, keep the Watch on.


Thank
Manjul

[StevenW]

What I meant was: When you take a project this big, (making 1000 portraits) you will always have some problems. In this case, Ho Chi Minh was one of those problems. To me he was an evil dictator with bad ideas, to others like Jane Fonda he was a hero. This is how history works and everyone will see something different based upon their own prejudices. In today's American history classes there is one paragraph on Ronald Reagan followed by five pages of Gorbachev. I have said before, they don't burn books anymore, they control the content in order to influence those prejudices. Many traditional American heroes are now portrayed as villains and many villains are now portrayed as heroes and this is not only an American phenomenon.

I understand the philosophical significance of each portrait is not the goal for you and that you are carving impartially. Making 1000 of the most influential people in history aside from the idea that they were good or evil is a worthy effort. I wonder if there is a list somewhere like Wiki of the 1000 most influential people in human history? If anyone knows of such a thing, I would be interested to see it.

Keep working on the details like the ears and listen to your inner-self when you're carving. Like kung-Fu, it's not only important to get the practice done, but to pay attention and learn from it as you go. Most important Miteri: Enjoy what you are doing. If you carve only because you feel some kind of pressure to fulfill a promise or accomplish this goal, then you are carving for the wrong reason.

http://www.brocktoon.net/img/ronald_reagan.jpg

Take care,

Steven

[Miteri,Manjul]

Respected StevenW an all the Sculptors,

Ofcourse, here are many more problems, I agree. Yes, these all 1000 persons are aslo problem for me but I must face it. I am happy too because you are watching on me regularly. I am not in fear of loniness in this struggle, you all are with me. I hope I will win, do support me.

Now, Here is the photo of Mao Ze Dong (Mao-Tse Tung). I just completed it. He was born on 26th Dec. 1893, Shaoshan, Hunan Province in China and died in 9th Sept. 1976, Beijing. He was the Founder of the People's Republic of China and Chairman of PRC (1949-1959).

I got the clear picture of Ronald Regan by StevenW, thank you.

Ok, I will post soon another portrait, keep the Watch on.


Thank
Manjul

[chris 71]

hi Manjul it looks like your carving is getting better and better more crisp especially the last 3 or 4. did you get some new tools or camera or something nice work

[Miteri,Manjul]

Thank you Chris,

I have not more tools for carving just chisels but nowadays I use to collect more and clear needed photos by internet. It is being easy to me. And I feel this regular carving is giving me more experience and making me more skilled. I am happy and hope so. By the way I have no amount to invest for the expensive tools such as digital camera, video camera and light tools. All the way I use a simple camera to expose my sculptures in my carving spot.

And I am carving the next one Subhas Chandra Bose (India). Keep the watch On.

Thank
Manjul

[Miteri,Manjul]

Respected Sculptors,

Here is Joseph V. Stalin, a new piece. He was born on Dec.21, 1879 and died on March 5, 1953 in Russia. He was a Russian Political Leader.


http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q256/manjul/JosephStalin2-2.jpg


Keep the Watch on.

Thank
Manjul

[Miteri,Manjul]

Respected Sculptors,

Here is another sculpture of



Quid-E-Azam Mahamad Ali Jinnah
Birth: Dec.25,1876, Karachi
Died: Sept.11,1948, Karachi, Pakistan
Work: Father of Pakistan/Founder of Pakistan (Aug.14,1947)
First Govner-General (1947-1948).

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q256/manjul/Quid-E-AzamMahamadAliJinnah2.jpg


Keep the Watch ON


Thank
Manjul

[jOe~]

So how many busts have you completed on this incredible quest?

[Miteri,Manjul]

So how many busts have you completed on this incredible quest?
Respected Joe,

I have completed near 90 of them and it is going ahead.

I got here the photo of Stalin has been deleted. Here it is again.


Thank
Manjul.

[jOe~]

Respected JoeYou are the one I tip my hat to. I have tremendous admiration and respect for people who put their personal quest and vision at the top of their "to do list". Bravo to you for following your passions.

[Miteri,Manjul]

Thank you jOe~!

Manjul

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Sculptors,
After a long time, I am here. I was busy for some other works, so I could not crave continue. But I didn't leave it, use some hours daily for it. I didn't complete more portraits in that time. Keep the watch ON.

Here is one.

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q256/manjul/SuvashchandraBose.jpg


Suvashchandra Bose
(1897-1945)
India
The Great Indian Leader



Thank
Manjul

[mantrid]

Hello Miteri
I have just come across your thread and am impressed by your efforts. I can see a noticable improvement since the first pieces you showed here. I can only imagine how good they will be in a few years time. Excuse me if I have missed the answer to the following question. Do you have a complete list of the 1000 people already, or are you choosing them as you go a long?

Also I did not notice any women. I know there hasnt been many compared to men due to their role in society up until recently. But there has been some important ones over the last 100 years such as in science and aviation and dare I say it, politics, Thatcher - first British female PM (not my personal favourite but very significant here in UK).

Ho, can you keep a lump of rock for me if Im ever in Nepal. I would love to do Charles Darwin for your collection :)

M

[Miteri,Manjul]

Hello Miteri
I have just come across your thread and am impressed by your efforts. I can see a noticable improvement since the first pieces you showed here. I can only imagine how good they will be in a few years time. Excuse me if I have missed the answer to the following question. Do you have a complete list of the 1000 people already, or are you choosing them as you go a long?

Also I did not notice any women. I know there hasnt been many compared to men due to their role in society up until recently. But there has been some important ones over the last 100 years such as in science and aviation and dare I say it, politics, Thatcher - first British female PM (not my personal favourite but very significant here in UK).

Ho, can you keep a lump of rock for me if Im ever in Nepal. I would love to do Charles Darwin for your collection :)

M

Dear Davies,
Yes, I am gradually getting improvement in my carving, trying to do better.

In fact, I have not completed to collect 1000 photos of the world famous personalities. I am collecting these with the help of internet and all you freinds. Only me, have not the enough information to know about them, I need your help.

I am carving to world famous women too. Yes, I have already planned to carve Thatcher, but not getting her clear photograph. And here are so many other world famous women to carve.
And, it would be my fortune if you carve Charles Darwin for my collecrion during your visit in my Nepal.

Thank
Manjul

[GHarrison]

Manjul, I think you have just become one of my favorite living sculptors.

Thanks for sharing!

[Nelson]

Manjul,

I`ve checked much of your work and have to say you are talented, but there`s something that sort of bugs my mind: do you plan to make it to the Guiness Records? What if you made 999 sculptures in your life time, or 200, or 2000? seems to me there`s unnecessary importance given to quantity, more so when one aims an specific number of sculptures.Some how the purpose of being a sculptor period needs not numbers. Sure amounts matter, but other matters matter more! Perhaps, latter on you`ll realize the little importance of numbers... Amount itself cannot be over the essence of art, the drive must be larger than numbers. Great work and an interesting QUEST nonetheless. Respectfully.

[Miteri,Manjul]

With the happiness & heartfull thanks to all
for

20 thousand viewings


Some years has been passed away in my journey with ISC learning more, expierecing more and watching more. I had not given continue to share my workart durring some months but I got this thread is collecting more viewers and I came to know that it has a very great vallue. I am very happy on this moment when this thread has collected more than 20 thousand respectable viewings. I will again share my creation and expierence.

Nelson, I am carving the 1000 individual satatues of world famous persons, I have not other way to carve them. I agree with you that the creation mustn't be counted on number. My 1000 statues are not the 1000 creation, it is my only one creation. And thank you, Harrison.

And, here is a photograph of PELE in larger size.



PELE
(1940 - Brasil)
The Great Brasilian Football Player

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af218/Manjulart/DSC03034.jpg



Thank
Manjul

[Miteri,Manjul]

Ernesto Che Guevara
Argentina
(1928 - 1967 A.D.)



http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q256/manjul/CheGuevara.jpg

Manjul

[robertpulley]

Manjul,

I just re-discovered this thread and your project. What a vision and what a goal. You are an inspiration. I hope we can continue to watch this work unfold for many years. I assume you intend to keep the 1,000 portraits in a single location. I hope cities are knocking each other over in an effort to be the one to provide a permanent home for your work.

[Miteri,Manjul]

Dear Robert,
Yes, I will show these photos of my work regularly on this site and hope you watch them, give the suggesrion. I hope these collection will get a suitable place in time.

Thank
Manjul

[Miteri,Manjul]

Here are some pages for me, http://blog.xnepali.com/1-man-1000-stone-sculptures-gift-to-the-motherland/, www.mydcnepal.com or http://www.mydcnepal.com/events.php?nid=500


Thanks
Manjul

[Miteri,Manjul]

How to lock this thread?

[zucchini]

hmmmm just read this whole interaction from beginning to end. Just a fascinating study of human character. I can see that there are such unbelievably warm, generous, giving, forgiving people in this forum. There is one i would not include in that description. it is so obvious...
manjul you never really talk about your medium or your tools. I suspect its because you have no love for it, its just part of a production run. At the rate the products are made i suspect the "stone" is a soft tuft or related limestone style, or dare I say it....a cement mix?
But i have also heard that 'many hands make light work'. i cant help but understand this much because the production rate is beyond belief if this stone is as he has described.
There are so much 'smoke and mirrors' I dont know what to believe when the only information I get comes from you and is not verifiable.
I have lived and worked in slums with people who own nothing and live day to day for food. There are two types of people in those places, those who hold true to their integrity and those who would sell their own child, their own soul for a small advantage. Manjul are you understanding me?
The poor people I have known regard anyone with regular internet contact, cell phones, international phone contacts, digital cameras etc as members of the rich. Anyone with the luxury to study Kung Fu as a hobby is a member of the ruling class.
Manjul I hope you pay your workers a decent wage now that you have made such a clever inroad into the western world.